Champ of Champs

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Draw
wrote on 04-Sep-23 21:21

Anyone know who WPH got?

Will be interested in seeing how far they might go this time

Punter
wrote on 05-Sep-23 09:34

All depends on the draw they get. 
I personally don't think they have the quality to win it compared to the squads they've had in previous years. 
If they come across some of the other quality clubs (Glebe, Pittwater, Dalleys, Bankstown) then I think they'll struggle. 
I'm predicting they'll win maybe their first 1 or 2 games then bow out. 

Quality
wrote on 05-Sep-23 17:19

Would definitely agree that on paper they don't have the individual quality of previous years but not relying on individuals - Kane being the obvious name - probably made them a better overall unit this year.

Agree though that at the COC level having your individual match winners is more important 

King Kong
wrote on 06-Sep-23 06:13

Yeah look WPH are deserving champions of our comp but truthfully they aren't that good. 
They struggled against us twice (we actually outplayed them in one game, the other was pretty even) and we didn't make the finals. 
The GF the gf they won with a pk against a team missing 6 players. 
Good on them but if they play a team such as Glebe they will get eaten x

Pfft
wrote on 06-Sep-23 06:46

Lol look at these Glebe name droppers lol. They win one CoC and you're all pole smokers. Nobody's heard of them before that probably because they weren't here what with covid and all being pommy backpackers lol.

Tweet
wrote on 06-Sep-23 15:16

Round 1

Rockdale vs Willougby Dalleys

 

Round 2

Camden Tigers vs Bankstown Sports

Wellington Warriors vs Colo

Norwest vs Clyde United

Como Jannali vs W1

WPH vs Bowral FC

Auburn vs Pittwater RSL

Fairfield Bulls vs Marayong

Glebe Gorillas vs Hurlstone Park

 

Round 3

Camden Tigers/Bankstown Sports vs Wellington Warriors/Colo

Fairfield Bulls/Marayong vs Auburn/Pittwater RSL

WPH/Bowral FC vs Norwest/Clyde United

Glebe Gorillas/Hurlstone Park) vs Como Jannali/W1

Soft draw
wrote on 06-Sep-23 16:01

WPH by 12

M.oliver
wrote on 08-Sep-23 12:35

shouldnt the comp be 'Premier of Premiers'??

Funny
wrote on 08-Sep-23 18:56

I don't see kenthurst in there

I can explain
wrote on 08-Sep-23 19:07

That's because Kenthurst are fucking shit.

Surely
wrote on 08-Sep-23 21:46

They may not be good enough to be premiers but surely they won the GF? Or at least were finalists?

Hmmmm
wrote on 08-Sep-23 23:16

Well yeah you'd think so wouldn't you.

 

But even for the (apparently) mighty Kenthurst that becomes a little tricky when you finish in the bottom half of the table, 10 points short of making the top 4.... 

 

😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣

kenthurst keith
wrote on 10-Sep-23 10:26

your all fat dont worry because hills comp is stronger then ghaf comp your belovid west pennent hills would be relergated from our prem league comp how far they going in champeons of champeons first game exit norwest will win it

fair Kiefm
wrote on 14-Sep-23 11:39

Keif,

 

your beloved comp was built by farmers.

 

back to your bushpigs.

Toovey
wrote on 14-Sep-23 13:39

Isnt so good we don't have to travel to kenthurst anymore.

Recollections.
wrote on 14-Sep-23 22:47

The mighty Hurlstone Park Wanderers won the Cottam Cup last week. Shame we play a strong side first up. And if we win we are up against Como. Whatever happens it will be good to see some quality games. 

Recollections.
wrote on 14-Sep-23 22:49

Hurlo beat Norwest in the quarters of the Cottam Cup. 3-0. Norwest were physical and fast. 

Lol
wrote on 14-Sep-23 22:55

Recollections. wrote:
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>Hurlo beat Norwest in the quarters of the Cottam Cup. 3-0. Norwest were physical and fast. 


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But beaten 3-0 sooooo not physical or fast enough after all lol

Recollections
wrote on 15-Sep-23 19:49

It was a polite way of saying they were completely outplayed. 

2nd best wide back
wrote on 16-Sep-23 23:59

Kane who?

Tasty
wrote on 24-Sep-23 17:25

kenthurst keith wrote:
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>your all fat dont worry because hills comp is stronger then ghaf comp your belovid west pennent hills would be relergated from our prem league comp how far they going in champeons of champeons first game exit norwest will win it


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wph 9 zip winners sets up for a tasty next fixture against Hills champs Norwest. Guess we'll have an answer once and for all Keith. Shame Ken weren't good enough. 

Results
wrote on 25-Sep-23 11:28

Glebe 2 - 1 Hurlstone Park

Wellington 0 - 7 Colo

Norwest 3 - 0 Clyde (Forfeit)

Fairfield 1 - 0 Marayong

West Pennant Hills 9 - 0 Bowral

Como Jannali 5 - 3 Rockdale

Camden 1 - 3 Bankstown

Auburn 1 - 4 Pittwater

 

Next Round Fixtures-

 

Bankstown V Colo

Fairfield V Pittwater

Glebe V Como

West Pennant Hills V Norwest

 

orange peel
wrote on 28-Sep-23 13:35

mouth watering....

 

Hills vs NWSF

Nostradamus
wrote on 03-Oct-23 13:14

Results wrote:
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>Next Round Fixtures-

>Bankstown V Colo

>Fairfield V Pittwater

>Glebe V Como

>West Pennant Hills V Norwest


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Bankstown V Colo

Fairfield V Pittwater

Glebe V Como

West Pennant Hills V Norwest

 

Nostradamus
wrote on 03-Oct-23 13:30

Results wrote:
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>Next Round Fixtures-

>Bankstown V Colo

>Fairfield V Pittwater

>Glebe V Como

>West Pennant Hills V Norwest


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Bankstown V Colo

Fairfield V Pittwater

Glebe V Como

West Pennant Hills V Norwest

 

Check in
wrote on 08-Oct-23 16:04

Score update?

Wph
wrote on 08-Oct-23 16:11

WPH 1 Norwest 0

Fat and crap
wrote on 08-Oct-23 16:38

Hills Association is fat and crap. Norwest unable to even finish with 11.

 

WPH dominated first half and should have been out of sight, Norwest had 20-25 minutes when they should have scored before WPH squandered loads of chances in the last 20 including a penalty.

 

Even with 3 regular starters missing the best side won.

 

You're all fat and rubbish KenthurstKeith

Wph
wrote on 08-Oct-23 16:58

WPH 1 Norwest 0

KK
wrote on 08-Oct-23 18:13

Fat and crap wrote:
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>Hills Association is fat and crap. Norwest unable to even finish with 11.

>WPH dominated first half and should have been out of sight, Norwest had 20-25 minutes when they should have scored before WPH squandered loads of chances in the last 20 including a penalty.

>Even with 3 regular starters missing the best side won.

>You're all fat and rubbish KenthurstKeith


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*your

Grammar police
wrote on 08-Oct-23 19:06

Are you serious bushpig?

 

You're as in you are.

Not your as in belonging to someone.

 

Dumb farmer

Wow
wrote on 08-Oct-23 19:06

If that's the best team that the hills comp can muster then the debate has thoroughly been settled. Any of the top 5 teams in the NWSFA would have mopped the floor with that Norwest team. 

if WPH could actually finish their chances the ref would have stopped the bout after 25 mins and the towel would have been thrown in. 

word on the street is that the hills comp has PL teams not returning next season and they couldn't even organise their GF day properly so the lights turned off half way through the 1st grade GF

 

Trash players, trash team, trash comp. 

kenthurst keith
wrote on 09-Oct-23 13:58

your lucky it wasnt kenthurst we wood have walked thrugh your fat team norwest shooldve won just remember who most dominent team in last 20yrs at ghaf was

Delirious
wrote on 09-Oct-23 18:23

Mate Norwest not only won your entire completion, the same one your shitty team couldn't even make the finals of. You also shipped 8 goals to Norwest and they couldn't even put a single one past WPH. 

ps the most dominant team in the last 10 years in GHFA is wph 

Major
wrote on 10-Oct-23 12:38

That's true WPH have been the most dominant team in the last 10 years that's because kenthurst & pumas weren't there and hills hawks were flops.

kenthurst keith
wrote on 13-Oct-23 12:30

west penneo most dominent becos the bush buys not their any more only dominent when hills teams left otherwise they would be lucky to make finals

Bushpig Needs Specsavers
wrote on 13-Oct-23 18:16

Sorry Bushpig but facts are facts and that is that.

Kenthurst didn't even make the finals series in Hills for 2023 and your Hills counterparts Norwest fell out of CoC for 2023 as well...WPH won NWSF and are into the CoC semi finals this season, who were runner-up not too long ago in 2019 CoC final vs Brookvale FC.

In saying that, what has Kenthurst done since 2019 til now that outweighs what WPH has accomplished?

Into the fonal
wrote on 15-Oct-23 17:56

4-1 win.

Fortunately with the final being at Valentine Park all teams in the sub-standard Hills Comp can easily come and watch and if they learn enough maybe they could come and join the NWSF Super League.

 

 

History?
wrote on 15-Oct-23 18:11

I believe COC was cancelled in 2020 due to Covid and can't remember for 2021 so WPH have made 2 of the last 3 or 4 finals.

 

FNSW website indicates last GHFA winners were EEW 30 years ago, have other sides made the final between then and WPH in 2019?

 

I was shocked of course to see that the bushpigs hadn't won it 10 years in a row until they decided trips to civilisation every fortnight was too far by tractor.

Steady on champ
wrote on 15-Oct-23 18:18

Actually History? Ken played in 2 CoC finals in their dominant years in GHFA, just as WPH has now with the chance to go one further next weekend if they win. Settle down.

History?
wrote on 15-Oct-23 19:02

Why steady on? I asked a question and you answered it. 

Obviously my last paragraph was a pisstake aimed at everyone's favourite village idiot Ken'urst Keef.

 

Do you remember who Kenthurst played and the scores? I'm actually not surprised they made the final twice. They were very strong for a period of time and I think we sometimes forget the quality of our league which stacks up well against pretty much any other.

History
wrote on 15-Oct-23 19:44

Lost to Brookvale 2-1 and Dunbar Rovers 3-2

History
wrote on 15-Oct-23 19:46

2012 2014

 

NWSFA goes alright but nowhere near the level of MWSFA

MWSFA
wrote on 15-Oct-23 20:27

I don't know if it is still the case but certainly 3-4 years ago clubs in that association were paying some decent money to players and in some cases more than they could get at NPL clubs. 

I'm aware of one club that lost sponsors and stopped payments and most of their first team left for other clubs or to play NPL.

MWSFA
wrote on 15-Oct-23 20:36

I don't know if it is still the case but certainly 3-4 years ago clubs in that association were paying some decent money to players and in some cases more than they could get at NPL clubs. 

I'm aware of one club that lost sponsors and stopped payments and most of their first team left for other clubs or to play NPL.

Pittwater RSL
wrote on 15-Oct-23 21:24

3-0 win for Pittwater tonight.

 

They will be favourites next week I think.

Recollections
wrote on 16-Oct-23 10:19

Still a way to go to match YMCA or Epping Eastwood from 80/90s. 

 

YMCA won it in 82 beating Wahroonga

YMCA won it in 86 beating Kissing Point

YMCA runners up in 88 losing to Grays Point (Hurstville Minotaur)

EEW runners up in 91 losing to Greenacre.

EEW winners in 93 beating Engadine. 

EEW runners up in 94 losing to Engadine. 

WPH had a strong presence in under 21 in the period between 88-92. 

From memory they lost CoC semi against Seasiders in 92. 

I saw all these games with exception of 82.

FYI, YMCA were runners up in State Cup in 82.

Epping Eastwood won State Cup in 94. 

At the time, Bankstown, KDSA and Sutherland produced top sides. 

Granville were thereabouts. Hills Independent winning CoC in 87 beating Menai. 

Menai won the Amateur Cup that year beating the YMCA. 

Hills had players from GHFA federation side (including coach).

Dundas were strong in early 90s with a few of their key players joining EEW. 

TLDR
wrote on 16-Oct-23 12:31

YMCA (1982-1990) 

6 x Premiers / 3 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)

2 x CoC Winners (82+86)  / 1 x CoC Finalists (88)

 

EEW (1989-1998)

5 x Premiers / 6 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)

1 x CoC Winners (93) / 2 x CoC Finalists (91+94)

 

RAV (2010-2011)

1 x Premiers / 1 x Champions

1 x CoC Finalists (11)

 

KEN (2009-2016)

4 x Premiers / 4 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)                            

2 x CoC Finalists (12+14)

 

WPH (2019-)

4 x Premiers / 4 x Champions / 4 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)                      

2 x CoC Finalists 19 + 23*

 

Hopefully this clears up the "who was better" debate

YMCA>EEW>WPH>KEN>RAV

Interesting
wrote on 16-Oct-23 13:27

TLDR wrote:
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>YMCA (1982-1990) 

>6 x Premiers / 3 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)

>2 x CoC Winners (82+86)  / 1 x CoC Finalists (88)

>EEW (1989-1998)

>5 x Premiers / 6 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)

>1 x CoC Winners (93) / 2 x CoC Finalists (91+94)

>RAV (2010-2011)

>1 x Premiers / 1 x Champions

>1 x CoC Finalists (11)

>KEN (2009-2016)

>4 x Premiers / 4 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)                            

>2 x CoC Finalists (12+14)

>WPH (2019-)

>4 x Premiers / 4 x Champions / 4 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)                      

>2 x CoC Finalists 19 + 23*

>Hopefully this clears up the "who was better" debate

>YMCA>EEW>WPH>KEN>RAV


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That's interesting. Certainly shows how dominant those Epping Y and EEW teams were in the 80's/90's.

And yeah it looks as though WPH have toppled KEN for the throne of most dominant team in recent years. Took them 5 years what it took KEN 8 years and that includes Covid affected seasons.

Depth
wrote on 16-Oct-23 14:36

Interesting wrote:
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>TLDR wrote:
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>>YMCA (1982-1990) 

>>6 x Premiers / 3 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)

>>2 x CoC Winners (82+86)  / 1 x CoC Finalists (88)

>> 

>>EEW (1989-1998)

>>5 x Premiers / 6 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)

>>1 x CoC Winners (93) / 2 x CoC Finalists (91+94)

>> 

>>RAV (2010-2011)

>>1 x Premiers / 1 x Champions

>>1 x CoC Finalists (11)

>> 

>>KEN (2009-2016)

>>4 x Premiers / 4 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)                            

>>2 x CoC Finalists (12+14)

>> 

>>WPH (2019-)

>>4 x Premiers / 4 x Champions / 4 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)                      

>>2 x CoC Finalists 19 + 23*

>> 

>>Hopefully this clears up the "who was better" debate

>>YMCA>EEW>WPH>KEN>RAV

>
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>That's interesting. Certainly shows how dominant those Epping Y and EEW teams were in the 80's/90's.

>And yeah it looks as though WPH have toppled KEN for the throne of most dominant team in recent years. Took them 5 years what it took KEN 8 years and that includes Covid affected seasons.


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lol it only took them 5 years because Ken and Phd left the comp. Comp had a lot more depth in that time. Wph is good agreed, but their competition is dud too

Bae
wrote on 16-Oct-23 14:48

Could you be any saltier. PHD were nobodies who literally didn't win a single thing in their short time in PL and you'll just have to face the fact that kenthurst are just second fiddle now to a team that's more successful than they ever were at their peak. 
The bush boy dick riders sound like those old fat blokes at the pub bragging about how they were so good in high school and they could've gone pro if they "didn't injure their shoulder". 
Just let them rot mid-table in the hills comp 

Al Bundy
wrote on 16-Oct-23 17:04

Never forget that I scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship

Great info
wrote on 16-Oct-23 17:15

Recollections and TLDR, thanks very much, that's really interesting to us stattos!

 

Clearly shows WPH are the third best group to have come from GHFA/NWSF but the best in about 25 years.

 

Bae and Al Bundy, you're both spot on. Anyone bringing up PHD at all is a clown.


By the way, I played with Jamie Redknapp when I was about 13 so I should have won England caps too. I only ever played one cricket match - a friendly for my company against another company - but I scored an unbeaten half century so it's ridiculous that I never got a test call up......

Great info
wrote on 16-Oct-23 18:22

Recollections and TLDR, thanks very much, that's really interesting to us stattos!

 

Clearly shows WPH are the third best group to have come from GHFA/NWSF but the best in about 25 years.

 

Bae and Al Bundy, you're both spot on. Anyone bringing up PHD at all is a clown.


By the way, I played with Jamie Redknapp when I was about 13 so I should have won England caps too. I only ever played one cricket match - a friendly for my company against another company - but I scored an unbeaten half century so it's ridiculous that I never got a test call up......

Great info
wrote on 16-Oct-23 20:19

Recollections and TLDR, thanks very much, that's really interesting to us stattos!

 

Clearly shows WPH are the third best group to have come from GHFA/NWSF but the best in about 25 years.

 

Bae and Al Bundy, you're both spot on. Anyone bringing up PHD at all is a clown.


By the way, I played with Jamie Redknapp when I was about 13 so I should have won England caps too. I only ever played one cricket match - a friendly for my company against another company - but I scored an unbeaten half century so it's ridiculous that I never got a test call up......

Anders
wrote on 17-Oct-23 08:25

WPH have achieved so much and congratulations to them. 
but seriously, they aren't that good

Doubles champs
wrote on 17-Oct-23 12:01

I only go off doubles won, therefore this WPH team greatest to ever do it in the comp imo. Imagine labelling someone a 'dominant' team but they choke in the finals rofl.. gtfo of here.

TBH
wrote on 17-Oct-23 21:55

In my opinion CoC wins / finalists is a better gauge of a dominant team. Association specific trophies are great but also reliant on how strong the competition is (which can vary greatly throughout the years).


To come 1st or 2nd in the entire state is a massive achievement. Haters will always claim that the only reason you won your local comp was because it was "weak" but once you're in the CoC you're playing the best of the best so that claim goes out the window if you make / win the GF. 

kenthurst keith
wrote on 17-Oct-23 23:04

its going too be a bloodbarth west penneo going to get smashed by pitterwater rsl club just remember west penneo only started wining when bush boys left the comp get the chairopracter down there your goaly is going to need it sore back from picken the ball out of his net to many times

Recollections
wrote on 18-Oct-23 08:31

TBH exactly. EEW were dominant alongside a very good Engadine team. I dont know exactly but Engadine made a total of six or seven state cup and coc finals winning two. That is quality. 

H
wrote on 18-Oct-23 12:02

Recollections wrote:
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>TBH exactly. EEW were dominant alongside a very good Engadine team. I dont know exactly but Engadine made a total of six or seven state cup and coc finals winning two. That is quality. 


Engadine also beat NER in Extra time in the State Cup final in the 90's. That was after NER beat a Young WPH in the SF

why
wrote on 18-Oct-23 13:56

TLDR wrote:
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>YMCA (1982-1990) 

>6 x Premiers / 3 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)

>2 x CoC Winners (82+86)  / 1 x CoC Finalists (88)

>EEW (1989-1998)

>5 x Premiers / 6 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)

>1 x CoC Winners (93) / 2 x CoC Finalists (91+94)

>RAV (2010-2011)

>1 x Premiers / 1 x Champions

>1 x CoC Finalists (11)

>KEN (2009-2016)

>4 x Premiers / 4 x Champions / 3 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)                            

>2 x CoC Finalists (12+14)

>WPH (2019-)

>4 x Premiers / 4 x Champions / 4 x Doubles (Premiership+Championship)                      

>2 x CoC Finalists 19 + 23*

>Hopefully this clears up the "who was better" debate

>YMCA>EEW>WPH>KEN>RAV


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Wow I didn't realise that west penno's 4 doubles hadn't been done before, good on em. Also why is Ravens in that list? Surely Penno have more accolades in terms of premiers/champions than them? or is it becuase they never made a CoC final?

TLDR
wrote on 18-Oct-23 14:20

There were a few other sucessful teams in the GHFA over the years but they never made decent in-roads into the CoC so it's only a gauge of their dominance in the local comp.

STA (2001-2007)

3 x Premierships / 2 x Championships / 1 x Double (2005)

 

NORMO (2003-2008)

3 x Premierships / 2 x Championships / 2 x Doubles (2006+2008)

 

PEN (2007-2017)

3 x Premierships / 2 x Championships / 1 x Double (but back in 2000)

 

Other doubles include:

NER x 2 (1987 + 2002)

 

 

 

Been around
wrote on 18-Oct-23 22:33

Juice played in those late 90s against the strong sta and pen era plus with bushpigs in their late dominance and he's seen the current wph and the comp the last few years as a ref. Surely have some opinion juice? 

Double Doubles?
wrote on 19-Oct-23 20:51

Anyone can win a double if they are the dominant side in first grade that year.

Who's won the most double doubles? 

That's the definition of dominant.

Honestly
wrote on 19-Oct-23 21:14

Let's be real. No one gives a shit about ressies, there's a reason the association doesn't even track the past winners. 

Double Doubles?
wrote on 19-Oct-23 21:38

Then you might want to include Kenthurst's doubles since leaving GHFA and joining Hills in their prime.

 

Add another 3 to your list, taking them to 7 Doubles.

 

Just remember that Kenthurst left GHFA with a double double so WPH are the Stephen Bradbury of GHFA.

Come back in a few years
wrote on 19-Oct-23 21:41

Come back when WPH have 7 doubles 

How Many?
wrote on 19-Oct-23 21:47

How many comps did WPH win when Kenthurst were in the comp?

 

Answer: Zero.

 

I think that solves that debate.

Ok champ
wrote on 19-Oct-23 22:37

Hahaha someone obviously told the bush pigs about the forum, 3 dick rider posts in 9 minutes! Since when did you idiots learn to use the internet?

 

The more you try and brag about how good your shitty team used to be the more it confirms what people have been saying about you. That you are living in the past and the fact you can't accept you guys are now a terrible mid-table club in a competition that is far worse than this one. Literally proven recently when your "best team"(which is a team that absolutely smoked you guys in your competition) got done by wph in the CoC. yet you still try and claim that moving to the hills comp and winning it is some sort of achievement?! That's like an Div 1 team moving to a AA8 comp and bragging about winning it every year. How do you not see this? But keep telling yourself your still special while tucking yourself into bed staring at your medals from literally 7 years ago

Jumping ship
wrote on 19-Oct-23 22:56

It's hardly WPH's fault that your bunch of pensioners had to hang up the Zimmer frames and the latest batch of 12-toed inbreds had to drop down to a piss poor association to avoid relegation from the PL.

 

I wonder if we should argue YMCA are actually the best side in the NWSF and certainly better than WPH? After all they also won a ton of trophies back in the Bronze Age.

Can you count?
wrote on 19-Oct-23 23:15

How Many? wrote:
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>How many comps did WPH win when Kenthurst were in the comp?

>Answer: Zero.

>I think that solves that debate.


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You do realise that when Kenthurst were in their "prime" years the current WPH squad were around 14-16 years old right? 

TLDR
wrote on 20-Oct-23 16:27

Settle down kids. 

This is why the stats tell the truth. Takes all the bias and ego out of the equation. 
It's understandable to be bias towards your team or the team you used to play for. 
everyone thinks the team they played in was the "best" and every year since they stopped playing has been objectively "worse". It's the same reason why baby boomers complained about Gen X, and why Gen X complained about millennials and now millennials complain about whoever this next generation is. 
We are automatically set up to believe that everyone sucks except for us and our generation (or our team)

There's a lot of talk in this thread about how the competition in 2023 is weaker than it was in previous years but if you do a bit of digging on this forum you'll find posts from back in 2016 saying that the competition in 2016 was so weak compared to previous seasons. Did the subjective opinions of people on the forum back then make it true or were they just salty that Kenthurst were doing well? Is that similar how when people whinge about West Pennant Hills?

There were even posts on the old forum talking about how people like Morro "aren't that good" but those who have been around a while know he was probably one of the better players to grace the PL in a long time. 

Just because a team is doing well now doesn't negate the success of teams from the past. After we're all dead and buried, or too senile to remember anything No one will remember how difficult the competition was or what teams played or didn't play, all that will remain will be the stats and the names of who won and in the end that's all you can objectively measure in terms of a "who was best" situation. All the rest is noise. 

You'd be fun at a party...
wrote on 20-Oct-23 17:34

TLDR wrote:
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>Settle down kids. 

>This is why the stats tell the truth. Takes all the bias and ego out of the equation. 
It's understandable to be bias towards your team or the team you used to play for. 
everyone thinks the team they played in was the "best" and every year since they stopped playing has been objectively "worse". It's the same reason why baby boomers complained about Gen X, and why Gen X complained about millennials and now millennials complain about whoever this next generation is. 
We are automatically set up to believe that everyone sucks except for us and our generation (or our team)

>There's a lot of talk in this thread about how the competition in 2023 is weaker than it was in previous years but if you do a bit of digging on this forum you'll find posts from back in 2016 saying that the competition in 2016 was so weak compared to previous seasons. Did the subjective opinions of people on the forum back then make it true or were they just salty that Kenthurst were doing well? Is that similar how when people whinge about West Pennant Hills?

>There were even posts on the old forum talking about how people like Morro "aren't that good" but those who have been around a while know he was probably one of the better players to grace the PL in a long time. 

>Just because a team is doing well now doesn't negate the success of teams from the past. After we're all dead and buried, or too senile to remember anything No one will remember how difficult the competition was or what teams played or didn't play, all that will remain will be the stats and the names of who won and in the end that's all you can objectively measure in terms of a "who was best" situation. All the rest is noise. 


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Bro can you just fuck off with your calm and rational arguments?? It's not wanted here... zzz

Summary
wrote on 20-Oct-23 20:08

So, TLDR, to summarise what you're saying, and I think we'd all agree, Kenthurst are fucking shit. Right?

Mercy
wrote on 22-Oct-23 17:45

3-1 HT to Pittwater. Just throw in the towel and give them the trophy

CoC Final @ VSP
wrote on 22-Oct-23 17:48

Half time: WPH 1 - 3 Pittwater RSL

So far WPH have been outpaced, outmuscled and physically not up to scratch in comparison to their opponents.

Conceded 2 really cheap and shit goals, to be fair they wouldn't normally concede...looks like a few of them are enjoying off-season by the looks of things (put on a few kgs/lacking the fitness).

#10 WPH (think is Dash) missed a decent 1-on-1 but made up by scoring a couple mins after.

Unless WPH have a miracle happen during the interval or what not and challenge Pittwater for the remainder of the match, sorry but Pittwater will dominate the 2nd half and put on more misery for the Lions.

Really?
wrote on 22-Oct-23 18:01

WPH look so shit 😂 how are these guys winning comps...can't even string a few passes together 

Lions Butchered Easily
wrote on 22-Oct-23 18:16

1-5 down with 20+ mins left in the 2nd half, WPH really didn't turn up today.

Honestly thought they would at least play with some pride, looks like they left in the change rooms before kickoff...pity.

Chumps
wrote on 22-Oct-23 18:34

Really? wrote:
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>WPH look so shit 😂 how are these guys winning comps...can't even string a few passes together 


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they are shit. The difference being 1st in a chump league and 1st in a league like Manly

Underdone
wrote on 22-Oct-23 18:41

Yep WPH looked thoroughly outplayed today in every way. Score line exactly sums up the game. 
 
To be fair to the lions I'd like to see any of the armchair haters that will inevitably surge to this thread have a crack on a hot windy day like today against a team that has destroyed everyone they have come up against this whole year and is arguably one of the best men's PL sides in the state for at least the last 10 seasons. 

Doordash
wrote on 22-Oct-23 19:23

How does Doordash always score honestly 

Doordash
wrote on 22-Oct-23 19:26

How does Doordash always score honestly 

Reality Check
wrote on 22-Oct-23 19:46

It's funny listening to WPH claim they are better than the Kenthurst team that won more premierships across two districts that any of those teams of the past listed above. 

Comparing the current Kenthurst team to the team of 10-15 years ago is also laughable. 

Beating the current Kenthurst team doesn't trump the achievements of the past.

Ass sniffer
wrote on 22-Oct-23 21:47

Underdone wrote:
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>Yep WPH looked thoroughly outplayed today in every way. Score line exactly sums up the game. 
 
To be fair to the lions I'd like to see any of the armchair haters that will inevitably surge to this thread have a crack on a hot windy day like today against a team that has destroyed everyone they have come up against this whole year and is arguably one of the best men's PL sides in the state for at least the last 10 seasons. 


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To also be fair, that was completely and utterly embarrassing. Both teams played on the same field. West penno are the best team in our comp but the way they played today was horrendous. Out paced, out muscled, out passed, out skilled. 

Hilarious
wrote on 23-Oct-23 09:06

Everyone criticising WPH on here is hilarious. You realised they beat sides who came second and third, St Pats and EEW, 7-0 during the season?

Pittwater are a class side. To say our comp is on par with that comp would be a ridiculous statement. Anyone else from this comp would've lost by 10, so pipe down. If it's so easy, you blokes go out there next year and win CoC.

Hilarious
wrote on 23-Oct-23 09:06

Everyone criticising WPH on here is hilarious. You realised they beat sides who came second and third, St Pats and EEW, 7-0 during the season?

Pittwater are a class side. To say our comp is on par with that comp would be a ridiculous statement. Anyone else from this comp would've lost by 10, so pipe down. If it's so easy, you blokes go out there next year and win CoC.

Hilarious
wrote on 23-Oct-23 09:09

Everyone criticising WPH on here is hilarious. You realised they beat sides who came second and third, St Pats and EEW, 7-0 during the season?

Pittwater are a class side. To say our comp is on par with that comp would be a ridiculous statement. Anyone else from this comp would've lost by 10, so pipe down. If it's so easy, you blokes go out there next year and win CoC.

Pennant Hills FC guy
wrote on 23-Oct-23 10:16

To be fair they had a few missing and their teammates wedding the night before, I'm sure a few were not at their best given the circumstances. A good effort to make the final

Quote from Pittwater
wrote on 23-Oct-23 11:37

"They wouldn't even compete with our mid table". 

And this is a Pittwater team who had 5 reserve grade blokes starting. 

 

Ghfa getting weaker and weaker it seems. 

Quote from Pittwater
wrote on 23-Oct-23 11:43

"They wouldn't even compete with our mid table". 

And this is a Pittwater team who had 5 reserve grade blokes starting. 

 

Ghfa getting weaker and weaker it seems. 

Wankers
wrote on 23-Oct-23 12:37

If any other team wants to make the CoC fianl then go for it, good luck to you. Let us know when you get there

kenthurst keith
wrote on 23-Oct-23 12:41

another imbarresing result from a ghaf team in champeons of champeons how many times do west penneo have to cop floggings bush boys are still number 1 come to the hills comp if you want some learning in proper football west penneo next time forfet 3-0 less imbarresing

Pittwater
wrote on 23-Oct-23 12:49

I don't believe but equally don't actually care if Pittwater had 5 ressies starting. I don't care what they think of our comp.
By all accounts half the WPH side had a big night on Saturday and they definitely had players missing.

What didn't surprise me was Pittwater's arrogance. Ball juggling in the corner, time wastingat 5-2, giving it the big one constantly. Know your place in the food chain you pelicans, you're still park footballers.

Glad that for all the perception of what our league is and isn't we don't have that shit or the aggro you here about In Granville and other comps.

And for what it's worth if GHFA is getting weaker and weaker how are we still making finals?

 I know for a fact our side would have been hammered so give WPH some credit and now it's time for the rest of us to step up and knock them off their perch and have a crack at COC ourselves. See you all in 2024!

 

 

 

 

 

not a hater
wrote on 23-Oct-23 13:09

Hilarious wrote:
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>Everyone criticising WPH on here is hilarious. You realised they beat sides who came second and third, St Pats and EEW, 7-0 during the season?

>Pittwater are a class side. To say our comp is on par with that comp would be a ridiculous statement. Anyone else from this comp would've lost by 10, so pipe down. If it's so easy, you blokes go out there next year and win CoC.


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im not saying wph are shit,

im just saying with the way they played yesterday any team in our comp except st andrews or ryde saints would have beaten them aswell

i wanted west penno to win

it was just really disappointing watching them play way below their best

thanks
wrote on 23-Oct-23 13:12

Pennant Hills FC guy wrote:
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>To be fair they had a few missing and their teammates wedding the night before, I'm sure a few were not at their best given the circumstances. A good effort to make the final


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i think you forgot the west in front of your name

nice excuses

thanks for making the ghfa look like a laughing stock

Agree
wrote on 23-Oct-23 13:15

100% true. What I watched yesterday was not the west penno side we came across this season. Pittwater's "statement" is true, that performance would have landed them mid table in the NWSF as well. 

Pennant Hills FC guy
wrote on 23-Oct-23 14:04

Mate I'm their biggest rival. Look through my posts all season, definitely the green side of Penno. Just not a fool like these pretend Hills association meat riders are and I genuinely know they had a wedding on the night before. Can you seriously tell me that after smashing drinks the night before a final at the end of a very very long season would not impact you slightly? Its also park football. 

Hills comp is very strong dont get me wrong and I think on their day they'd beat a handful of sides in the GHFA. However West Penno gotta be doing something right to make the final whereas all the Hills teams came up very short and from what I was told their final ended because the lights went off and they couldn't get them back on to even get a fair result? 

Sounds more like a 'laughing stock' as you say at the Hills association 

Priorities
wrote on 23-Oct-23 15:18

Could WPH have been more professional and stayed off the beer and got an early night knowing they had a huge game the next day? Of course they could have. They chose to drink and stay out late so no excuses.

 

And personally I would have done exactly the same. However it gets dressed up, it is amateur football and the chance to celebrate a (hopefully) once in a lifetime event with a long term friend should take priority every single time.

 

I know which of the two they will all remember and care about in a few years time.

 

Football is important to us all but mateship is far more important.

Priorities
wrote on 23-Oct-23 16:18

Could WPH have been more professional and stayed off the beer and got an early night knowing they had a huge game the next day? Of course they could have. They chose to drink and stay out late so no excuses.

 

And personally I would have done exactly the same. However it gets dressed up, it is amateur football and the chance to celebrate a (hopefully) once in a lifetime event with a long term friend should take priority every single time.

 

I know which of the two they will all remember and care about in a few years time.

 

Football is important to us all but mateship is far more important.

So
wrote on 23-Oct-23 16:28

So what was the final score?

kenthurst keith
wrote on 23-Oct-23 16:53

howd you manage too get flogged by a bunch of idiots on surfboards take up nitting you clowns

How?
wrote on 23-Oct-23 17:50

kenthurst keith wrote:
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>howd you manage too get flogged by a bunch of idiots on surfboards take up nitting you clowns


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How did you get flogged by the side that then got easily beaten by the side that "got flogged " (but finished runners up in COC)?

 

Luckily you have enough fingers to count the dozen that the surfer dudes would have scored against you. 

Take your chances
wrote on 23-Oct-23 18:13

I feel like WPH actually started the game well and even should have scored an easy one in the first 10 mins and been 1-0 up but then conceded two very average goals straight after, they seemed totally deflated after that... Could have been a different game if they took their chances..

How?
wrote on 23-Oct-23 18:25

kenthurst keith wrote:
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>howd you manage too get flogged by a bunch of idiots on surfboards take up nitting you clowns


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How did you get flogged by the side that then got easily beaten by the side that "got flogged " (but finished runners up in COC)?

 

Luckily you have enough fingers to count the dozen that the surfer dudes would have scored against you. 

Pennant Hills FC guy
wrote on 24-Oct-23 22:26

Pennant Hills FC guy wrote:
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>Mate I'm their biggest rival. Look through my posts all season, definitely the green side of Penno. Just not a fool like these pretend Hills association meat riders are and I genuinely know they had a wedding on the night before. Can you seriously tell me that after smashing drinks the night before a final at the end of a very very long season would not impact you slightly? Its also park football. 

>Hills comp is very strong dont get me wrong and I think on their day they'd beat a handful of sides in the GHFA. However West Penno gotta be doing something right to make the final whereas all the Hills teams came up very short and from what I was told their final ended because the lights went off and they couldn't get them back on to even get a fair result? 

>Sounds more like a 'laughing stock' as you say at the Hills association 


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No I'm the biggest rival

Gimp
wrote on 26-Oct-23 20:41

Fuck west penno are pretty shit hey

both ways
wrote on 27-Oct-23 08:10

Priorities wrote:
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>Could WPH have been more professional and stayed off the beer and got an early night knowing they had a huge game the next day? Of course they could have. They chose to drink and stay out late so no excuses.

>And personally I would have done exactly the same. However it gets dressed up, it is amateur football and the chance to celebrate a (hopefully) once in a lifetime event with a long term friend should take priority every single time.

>I know which of the two they will all remember and care about in a few years time.

>Football is important to us all but mateship is far more important.


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You can celebrate a mates wedding without getting fucked up and then playing embarrasingly bad in a once of a lifetime CoC final aswell though.

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