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Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: THE ROCK ()
Date: June 09, 2015 06:16PM

With all the chat about PHD and KEN, i thought i would go through the league honours and Put together a tally of champions:

PREMIERSHIPS
8-Epping YMCA
5-Epping Eastwood
4-Pennant Hills
3-Kenthurst
3-West Pennant Hills
3-St Andrews Eastwood
3-Normo
2-MBU?
2-RSL?
2-North Epping
2-Gladesville RSL
1-Gladesville Ravens


CHAMPIONS
8-North Epping
7-Epping Eastwood
3-ST Andrews Eastwood
3-Kenthurst
3-Epping YMCA
3-Pennant Hills
2-West Pennant Hills
2-MBU?
2-Normo
1-Gladesville RSL?
1-Gladesville Ravens



Pretty surprising hey!

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: THE ROCK ()
Date: June 09, 2015 06:22PM

GHFA CUP:

2-PEN
1-PHD
1-STA

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Juice ()
Date: June 09, 2015 07:08PM

YMCA of the 80s and eew of the 90s easily the best in history, not just within ghfa but state wide and nationally in the case of the y.

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: THE ROCK ()
Date: June 09, 2015 07:30PM

It would be interesting to know when some of these clubs were first formed.

Obviously there are a number that have been there from the beginning, but some of the newies such as KEN and PHD, even HWK how long they have been around.

Who is RSL and MBU?

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: History ()
Date: June 09, 2015 08:54PM

Meadowbank United aka Meadowbank Budgies

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: 47 ()
Date: June 09, 2015 08:58PM

RSL was Ryde RSL, merged with Putney in 1990 according to Putney's website

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Yep ()
Date: June 10, 2015 08:33AM

So essentially what that tally proves is that all PHD has brought to the PL is talk talk talk and no action. Only 1 GHFA cup win since they've been in PL is shocking considering how highly they rate themselves.
And before you go on about how they have only been in PL for a short amount of time, just look at kenthurst's achievements. Just accept that you're not as good as you think you are. No matter how much you were "challenging" history will show you just made up the numbers

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Hally ()
Date: June 10, 2015 09:50AM

NER - Big game specialists
Great Championship record over the years

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: jrh ()
Date: June 11, 2015 04:53PM

interesting subject..which is the only club that has not been out of Premier League during its existence??

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Fruit ()
Date: June 11, 2015 05:15PM

PEN

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: win ratios ()
Date: June 11, 2015 05:34PM

What are clubs win ratios?

Ken are 3/7 (42%)

Pen are 3/?

EEW are 8/?

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: pen ()
Date: June 11, 2015 06:20PM

Pen are 3/38

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Uh hello ()
Date: June 11, 2015 07:38PM

It's history, who cares, we play for this championship not last yrs one

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Uh hello ()
Date: June 11, 2015 07:38PM

It's history, who cares, we play for this championship not last yrs one

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Uh hello ()
Date: June 11, 2015 07:38PM

It's history, who cares, we play for this championship not last yrs one

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Recollections ()
Date: June 11, 2015 08:25PM

Epping YMCA were definitely the strongest PL squad in the 1980's. Whilst they did not win many grand finals they won the premiership every year in the 1980's with the exception of a couple won by Ryde RSL, North Epping and Meadowbank United. The YMCA in won two AA CoC in 1982 and 1986. Runners up in 1988. They were also runners up in AA State Cup in 1982 and 1987.

The nucleus of the great YMCA teams comes down to two coaches.Firstly Des Taylor who had two teams from the generation born 1958-1962 and Norm Jones who coached two teams spanning the generation between 1963-1967.These sides won Champions of Champion as juniors at the YMCA. Des Taylor was lucky enough to build his sides around Billy Hulston who was a professional in Scotland.

There are some great photos of these teams on the YMCA website. One is definitely before the 1988 Champions of Champions final.

Ryde RSL were a strong team. Based at Ryde Three they were made up of x-state league players from North Ryde and Ryde District Panthers (aka Marsfield). I saw this team win the Grand Final in 1984 against Y b's in Premier 2's. Ryde RSL were all sky blue with some white trim.

Meadowbank United bordered on urban mythology. Strong sides who played at Meadowbank One. I played against them when they were in AA in the early 1990's. My brother played against them in reserves for the Y. They had skilful and tough squad of older guys from UK and Meadowbank Boys High School. They wore a Leeds United away kit from the 1970's. Hence the Budgies.

North Epping Rangers were strong at this time. Many x YMCA players like Dave Taylor, John Henley, Gregor Fraser,and Andrew Grierson. Gerard McColgan was also part of Premier League folklore as a strong forward who had played for Hakoah and worked as a cellar man at Epping Pub. I think North Epping Rangers were the strongest side in the reserve grade throughout the 1980's.

Interestingly Gerard used to talk about a State Cup Quarter Final at West Epping in 1983 where North Epping played the YMCA and won 3-2. North Epping went out in the Semi-final against Loftus Rovers who won the C0C as well.

Redbacks had a good side in the mid-1980's. Join champions in 1986 holding the YMCA to a nil-nil at LH Waud - the same year the YMCA won a CoC. The year before they were thumped 1-7 by North Epping. This side had a number of x-YMCA players - Peter Roden. They also had a number of good juniors.

WPH were successful briefly between the YMCA and Epping Eastwood in 1992. The 1990's really belong to Epping Eastwood. They dominated in both grades. Challenged in later on by Pennant Hills in 1996 and then Gladesville RSL. Epping Eastwood was also made up of many x-YMCA players, a couple from Eastwood Town federation, Toss from North Epping, and Strata from Beecroft.

They won a AA State Cup out at Miranda against Engadine. A very tight game against a very good side who later beat them in the 1994 CoC final. Epping Eastwood were fast, skilful, tough. They played good football. They had an aura in the district that was worth two or three goals. Losses against side like Kissing Point in the State Cup QF in 1995 support this argument. Kissing Point were good not great.

Gladesville RSL were all about Dave Batten. In my view alongside Toss, Andy Ferris, Billy Hulston, and the Walrus, the best player in the comp. He almost took over Beecroft in 1995. Beecroft dithered and the rest they say is history. Batten persisted with the old Gladesville players for a year or so before he started to blood any number of old NSL and state League mates from Wollongong Wolves, Penrith Uruguay and Blacktown City. A good side but it was a bit like Andrew Symonds playing park cricket.

My connection with GHFA pretty much ends there. Not sure about St Andrews or Pennant Hills of the 2000's. My memories of Kenthurst are all Premier League Two - Lenny, Sarg and Gary....

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: THE ROCK ()
Date: June 12, 2015 04:01AM

Fantastic post! great to know the actual beginnings of the premier league!

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Juice ()
Date: June 12, 2015 05:18AM

Super read! Cheers for that. I came into pl on back end of that EEW side of the side of the 90s and you're right, they sure did have an aura.

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Old bloke ()
Date: June 12, 2015 09:16AM

Played in the 1983/4 Ryde RSL teams
Ryde RSL Rams....same kit as Man City.
Disbanded in mid 80's when Ryde RSL failed to continue support the team and we were merged into North Ryde RSL.
Great squad with a few ex State league players and one player from Hadjuct Split. He liked the drink and rarely went to training, but is probably one of the best players ever to play in GHFA...cant remember his name.

As good as the team was, we never made State Final so hats off to YMCA and EEW

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Recollections ()
Date: June 12, 2015 12:33PM

Hey Old Bloke

Did you move to North Ryde as well? Federation or PL2.

Also, did Browny of North Ryde fame play with Ryde RSL or did he come out of North Ryde Federation?

Ryde RSL used to be a great club. Mark Koussas's brother used to play there. They disappeared around the same time as Meadowbank United, early 1990's.

In the late 1970's Ryde District, St Andrews, Gladesville Ravens, West Ryde Rovers, and North Ryde all had Federation Teams.

I remember watching Eastwood Town at lower Eastwood on Sundays.

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: OLD BLOKE ()
Date: June 12, 2015 01:23PM

Don't recall Brownie. I moved on to Thornleigh then North Ryde and Normo.

We had a couple of ex Meadowbank (Budgies) players as they disbanded around 82/3 and our coach Mark came from the Budgies.

As I recall a few lads moved to the Ryde Federation team when we disbanded.

Still bump into a couple of the lads playing 35's, but few of us left running around now.

Great days and shin pads were for the delicate lads....

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Recollections ()
Date: June 12, 2015 08:03PM

Reserve grade was pretty good to watch in the 1980's and 1990's.Slower than to today, teams relied more on passing and skill.

I used to love 1.15 at West Epping, North Epping, Carlingford 2, Meadowbank 1, and Cheltenham.

At the YMCA most reserve players would adjourn to the bowling club for beers. In those days the main ground was on the Northern side of the oval.

North Epping definitely won the Premiership in Ressies in 1986, 87 and 88. I remember the YMCA blew it in 86 against WPH 1-2 who were relegated.

I remember the Grand Final that year at LH Waud. Beecroft versus the YMCA. One all and joint champions. Beecroft had a strong reserve grade team in the late 80's and were regular visitors to the Grand Final. They had the tall Martin brothers, Warren Craig, and Dave Bennetts. All great cricketers too.

North Epping were spearheaded by a very angry and determined Gregor Fraser. They had a midfield dominator in Daryl. Neil Baker also played for North Epping at the time. He later was one of the best players in 1st grade for Pennant Hills.

The YMCA reserves definitely won the Premiership and Championship in 1990. I remember Ricky Joynes scored well over 60 goals in reserves in five seasons in the late 1980's. He was really good to watch, full of tricks and goals.

Meadowbank had Walrus aka Paul Daley. He was playing reserves by time I was watching. I assume he was a first grader in the late 1970's. He had amazing ball skills. You could not get the ball off him. Would shoot from anywhere.

Epping Eastwood dominated in the 1990's with a team that would have constituted a strong first grade team anywhere else. Jason Benavente, Wayne Fidling, Scott Grinham, Bruno etc. The first three were YMCA juniors.

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Posted by: kiwi ()
Date: June 12, 2015 08:59PM

i went to school with 1 of those guys and he was by no means a great player, so if that team dominated and he played for them then the comp would be definitely no stronger than teams in recent years.
no disrespect to the guy but he was only ever a club play but a good guy.

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Recollections ()
Date: June 12, 2015 10:23PM

It is after all club football. If you have played at a higher level, and it sounds (and looks) like you have, fair play to you.

Everyone mentioned in my post would have played first grade in a side that won a premiership, grand final, state cup of coc.

In fact all four Epping Eastwood players I referred to represented NSW in 1994.

That is more than me and most people who frequent this blog.

That was the beauty of GHFA in the 1980's and 1990's. It was made up of club footballers, some talented, all hardworking. There were so many characters.

This is why Epping Eastwood, YMCA, North Epping and the Budgies, will be remembered in folklore.

They were made up local players who loved a game with friends and a drink afterwards. They just happened to be very good.

I am sure all the players I mentioned would have made a federation squad somewhere in Sydney. They didn't because they wanted to play with their mates.

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Lol ()
Date: June 13, 2015 09:24AM

Uh hello Wrote:
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> It's history, who cares, we play for this
> championship not last yrs one


Well you're not playing very well

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Recollection ()
Date: June 13, 2015 09:46AM

Remember that time pumas won the comp.

Said no one ever.

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Recollections ()
Date: June 14, 2015 09:45AM

This is one for Jethro or Hally.

I was talking to my brother who remembers the YMCA playing the Budgies in a Grand Final in the early 1980's.

He reckons it was at LH Waud and the YMCA won. So looking at the records I suspect he could be referring to 1982.

This would also take YMCA's Championship Tally up by one.

My brother remembers the Budgies being skilful but slow. He said most of their players were well over 30 by the mid-1980's.

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Swanee ()
Date: May 28, 2016 11:33AM

Interesting reading this thread as I played for Normanhurst in the inaugural year of Premier League to GHFA.

The Normanhurst team was made up of a majority of U/21 players who had won various titles in previous years and were looking for more of a challenge and a challenge they got.

First match was against Meadowbank United at Normanhurst Park and MBU were full of stars with great skills from a much higher level.

All I could remember of that afternoon as a young 17 year old goalkeeper, was pulling off at least 20 saves of shots on goal and picking the ball out of the back of the net 6 times. Paul Daly was unstoppable and the others around him were just as talented, in later years I got to play with Paul at WPH under Wayne Molyneaux and even in his twilight years it was difficult to get the ball off him.

I was never a great player, but turned to officiating and refereed Premier League for over ten years when some of the greats were running around, made for some interesting afternoons and challenged the man management skills

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Re: Most successfull clubs @ PL Level
Posted by: Jethro ()
Date: May 28, 2016 10:20PM

Here are a few responses

To “Old Bloke” and Recollections
Ryde RSL came into PL in 1978 then 1979, 1980, 1981 (Premiers), 1980 then disbanded.

Yugal who became Yugal Ryde then Ryde District then fell out of Federation Football and entered GHFA in PL div 2 in 1984 promoted to div 1 in 1985 then disbanded in 1986 and absorbed by Putney.

The infamous Jimmy Cooper coached RSL in the early 80’s. He was notorious for starting games with 12 players. That is why referees now do a player count before starting the game.

Some players may have gone to North Ryde but some went to Budgies.
RSL also had Phil Bakeric playing for them (ex Yugal and NSW)
As far as I know, Brownie played most of his football with North Ryde and is still doing so today in 45 div 1

Meadowbank Budgies came into the Premier League in 1978 (the second season). They were a new team made of up former Ravens, Rovers and Eastwood Town federation players. The former clubs had exited the NSW Federation ranks due to escalating affiliation fees.

Budgies adopted their name from the budgerigars who adorned the Meadowbank playing fields at the time. They played in all yellow with white and blue trim.
Old Bloke, is the Mark you refer to at Ryde RSL Mark Alphabet? If so he’s just about to make a comeback

To Swanee, sorry but you are mistaken. The inaugural Premier League season was 1977. Normo’s inaugural season was 1978 which was Budgie’s as well.

Budgie’s first Premier League game was in 1978 versus Penno at Meadowbank 1 (now 2). I was playing for Penno that year. Budgies won the Premiership at their first attempt.

Budgies had many great players including Paul Daly aka the Walrus but also Rodney Cook, The late great Dave (Wako) Wakeling, Barry Waud (the son of LH Waud), Cam McDonald etc. etc.

Kiwi, most of the players Recollections was referring to were ressie players who can’t be compared to first graders of any decade although most were good players in their own right.

Recollections, angry and determined is a mild description for Gregor Fraser. Nutter would be more appropriate.

The early 80’s grand final between YMCA AND Budgies’s must have been ’82 or ’83 which is missing from my Honours Board.

Penno are the only club not to have been relegated from the Premier League.
It is hard to make distinctions between clubs of different era’s/decades.
I played against Ryde RSL, Budgie’s, North Epping and YMCA in the 70’s and 80’s and have watched Penno, GRL and EEW in the 90’s and in the last fifteen years STA, Normo, Penno and Kenthust.


If I had to make a choice I couldn’t go passed EEW in the 90’s or KEN of recent seasons. All great sides.

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Posted by: oldbugger ()
Date: May 29, 2016 05:19PM

What a great read by the posters on here!!! I will say that there is alot of history and respect by all associated and playing in those years. Some real tough players and real good sides.I think there is alot to be learned by the new breed and how to show respect and develop good mateship rather than whinge and whine about bad refs,players and sides who will never come close to what was achieved and will be achieved in the years to come.I hope there is a side that can match the likes of the YMCA's, EEW's and Ken in the recent seasons who have got a little way to go the catch the former sides.

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