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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Confirmed ()
Date: November 30, 2020 04:37PM

It's confirmed. North Epping are going down, Epping staying in PL
What a finish to a season!!!

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Fake news ()
Date: November 30, 2020 09:16PM

Confirmed Wrote:
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> It's confirmed. North Epping are going down,
> Epping staying in PL
> What a finish to a season!!!


Surely you’re on something, where are your sources from?!

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Still going ()
Date: December 01, 2020 03:17PM

The process is still going ahead. Jack Fulton has created a technical problem within the registration process however as someone previously has posted, the reason why the decision is taking long is determining whether NER should be stripped away from the PL based on a FNSW/NWSF error of judgment. NER have done no wrong. But technically by the book, it's completely unfair for the rest of the comp that a mix-up in the de-registering of a player has meant that they have stayed in the PL when everyone knows that if this player didn't play, NER would have barely got 5 points.

Don't you worry. We will know the result. The Epping coach (stan) who has been posting anonymously under his work email address will be either fuming if Epp go down or be sticking it to everyone on the forum if NER go down.

The above poster is only hearing the strong rumours that it is very likely that Epping will stay up but the complications around everything means everyone needs to be more patient.

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Oddball ()
Date: December 02, 2020 08:39AM

This issue was first raised on this forum on October 15.

I don’t know if NWSF became aware of this by reading the forum (which they do, often) or beforehand.

Give them the benefit of the doubt and say October 15, they have known about it for 7 weeks ago.
How long does it take to investigate and make a decision on this?

Meanwhile clubs are starting to trial players in the coming weeks and these two clubs don’t even know which division they will be playing in next season.

Surey the Association need to pull their fingers out

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: THE CIA ()
Date: December 02, 2020 10:43AM

Oddball Wrote:
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> This issue was first raised on this forum on
> October 15.
>
> I don’t know if NWSF became aware of this by
> reading the forum (which they do, often) or
> beforehand.
>
> Give them the benefit of the doubt and say October
> 15, they have known about it for 7 weeks ago.
> How long does it take to investigate and make a
> decision on this?
>
> Meanwhile clubs are starting to trial players in
> the coming weeks and these two clubs don’t even
> know which division they will be playing in next
> season.
>
> Surey the Association need to pull their fingers
> out

Both Helen Armson from NER and Mal Arnold from EPP are on the NSWF board. They were both well aware of the issue before the forum brought it to light (if my memory serves me right, 3rd last game of the season).

Cross communication of meetings from NSWF and FNSW is making the process really slow. Seems like it's all very secretive because if the EPP coach is coming on here asking for updates and having a rant, it must mean Mal is not giving crap all away.

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: NSWF Document ()
Date: December 02, 2020 10:53AM

For those interested. Here are the constitutional regulations around player registration straight from NSWF.




5.3. PLAYER’S REGISTERED TEAM

5.3.1. No player may be registered with more than one Football Association at any one time in any
one competition season.

5.3.2. No player may be registered with more than one Member Club of the Association at any one
time in any one competition season.

5.3.3. No player may be registered with more than one team with the Association at any one time
in any one competition season.

5.3.4. Any registered player proved to have played in any competition match of Association
Football outside the Association without the permission of the DM may be suspended for a
period to be determined by the GPT.

5.3.5 To be eligible to play in round 1 of the winter season, players must be registered in the
Association’s competition management system and authorised by their Club no later than
10am on the Tuesday prior to the first round and be authorised by the Association prior to
the commencement of the round.

5.3.6 Subject to clause 5.3.7, for players registering after round 1, provided players are registered
in the Association’s competition management system and authorised by their Club by 10am
on Wednesday, and authorised by the Association prior to the round, they are eligible to play
from the immediately following weekend’s round

5.3.7 No player may be registered with the Association after close of business, two full working
days prior to the 30 June. Clubs must seek confirmation from the Association that players
being registered in the last week prior to 30 June are authorised by the Association prior to
their participation in a fixture.

5.4. PLAYER REGISTRATION PROCESS

5.4.1. Any person wishing to participate in competitions, or matches conducted by the Association
shall be properly registered with the Association.

5.4.2. No contracted player shall register with the Association.

5.4.3. Any player under suspension or disqualification from any Association, Federation or Club may
be accepted for registration, but cannot play or otherwise take any part in any match until
the period of suspension has been served in full. Suspended players must be registered to
serve their sentence.

5.4.4. A player shall become a registered player with the Association once all of the following have
taken place

5.4.4.1. The player, or parent/guardian if the player is under the age of 18 years at the date of
registration, has completed and authorised an FFA Registration System electronic registration thus agreeing to abide by the Rules and Regulations of FFA, FNSW, the

Association and the Club.

5.4.4.2. The player has paid the relevant Club registration fee.

5.4.4.3. The Club has submitted to the Association the player’s registration and digital photograph
in the manner prescribed by the Association.

5.4.5. Registration of a player requires submission to the Association of a digital photograph of the
player meeting the requirements of this clause and of Schedule 3 (Clause 08). Registration of
players will not be accepted if they are submitted without a suitable digital photograph, or
with digital photographs not meeting these requirements.

5.4.5.1. Registered photographs shall be updated a minimum of every two (2) years for players
seeking registration in Grades up to Under 16 years.

5.4.5.2. Photographs for players seeking registration in Grades Under 17 to All Age, Over Age,
Premier League and Super League shall be updated a minimum of every three (3) years.

5.4.5.3. The registered photograph shall be updated where the Club or the Association considers a
player has sufficiently changed their appearance, or that the submitted photograph does
meet requirements, such that the player is not easily recognised from the current
registration photograph.

5.4.6. For the purposes of the “Accident Support Program”, a player is considered registered with
the Club from the time they complete the aforesaid FFA Registration System electronic
registration and may submit a claim to the insurance company upon the Club completing the
player’s registration with the Association.

5.4.7. Where a player has a legal name change during the current competition year, they shall
notify their Club and the Club shall notify the Association in writing of the player’s legal name
for the Association to update team registrations and Photo IDs.

5.5. CHANGING A PLAYER’S REGISTERED TEAM AND/OR CLUB

5.5.1. A Club may apply to the DM in writing for permission for a player to be downgraded within
their Club where they are Age Eligible for the lower grade. Downgrading for players from the
grade/division in which they are registered to another grade or division shall cease after the
fourth match of the Premiership Competition.

5.5.2. A Club may apply to the DM in writing for permission for a player to be transferred within
their Club between Mixed and Women’s competitions where they are Age Eligible and
Gender Eligible for the new grade. Such transfers shall cease after the fourth match of the
Premiership Competition of the player’s currently registered team.

5.5.3. A player having been registered with the Association as a member of a Club may deregister
from that Club and register with another Club upon the Club notifying the Association in
writing that the player has been deregistered in the FFA Registration System.

5.5.4. Where a player deregisters from one Club and registers with another Club, the Association
shall determine the fees to be charged to each Club, ensuring players and Clubs are not
double charged for the same service (e.g. insurance).

5.5.5. No registered player may deregister from one Club and register with another Club on more
than one occasion in any one competition season.

5.5.6. Any player who seeks to deregister from one Club and register with another Club and is
refused a clearance from their Club may appeal in writing to the DM for permission to
register with another Club.


5.5.7. No player may be deregistered from one Club and registered with another Club, or from one
team to another team within a Club, after the close of player registrations as in Clause 0.

5.5.8. For Mixed and Women’s Competitions, if an affiliated Club has more than one registered
team playing in the same grade and division, it shall not permit any player to interchange
within these teams unless the interchange is previously sanctioned by the DM.

5.5.9. For Mixed and Women’s Competitions, transfer of the registration of a player of a Club
between teams in the same grade and division or in the same grade and a lower division may
be sanctioned by the DM.

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Mac ()
Date: December 02, 2020 04:23PM

It seems Mac dragons has the same problem with their state league player.

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Graheme B ()
Date: December 02, 2020 04:34PM

Mac Wrote:
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> It seems Mac dragons has the same problem with
> their state league player.


Good try.
He cut all ties with his former club at end of 2019 season

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Pelican ()
Date: December 02, 2020 04:40PM

Mac Wrote:
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> It seems Mac dragons has the same problem with
> their state league player.


Why put so much effort into making crap up?

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Francois ()
Date: December 02, 2020 05:06PM

I know the player from Dragons.
He played NPL in 2019 then went overseas for a while then found a new club for 2020.
Pretty simple.

Jack Fulton (as im led to believe) was registered with Manly then when Covid hit and NPL clubs said they weren’t going to pay some players, he left. But perhaps was still registered with Manly when also registered to NER.

The two cases are nothing alike.

Get a life pal

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Outsider ()
Date: December 02, 2020 05:59PM

Oddball Wrote:
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> This issue was first raised on this forum on
> October 15.
>
> I don’t know if NWSF became aware of this by
> reading the forum (which they do, often) or
> beforehand.
>
> Give them the benefit of the doubt and say October
> 15, they have known about it for 7 weeks ago.
> How long does it take to investigate and make a
> decision on this?
>
> Meanwhile clubs are starting to trial players in
> the coming weeks and these two clubs don’t even
> know which division they will be playing in next
> season.
>
> Surey the Association need to pull their fingers
> out

This.

How long does this need to drag out for? It's simple. If Fulton played 3 games registered with Manly and did not de-register when signing for NER then according to the constitution, its game over. If he was de-registered then its game over.

I disagree with the opinion that NER are not at fault (if Fulton rego was illegal) . If you're signing a NPL player then you should be triple checking whether he is still registered with that club or not. We know how strict NWSF are with abiding by the rules (I mean how many points deductions where there the previous season before of clubs playing too many reserve players for example).

Macquarie Dragons did it with their State League player
Epping Eastwood with Ollie Green.

I think this is a lesson for every club and for their registers. Memorise the rules back to the front and ensure that your PL/SL sides rego players in the correct way.


Would also like to say that Epping are the luckiest club out there. You can't pick a side full of injury prone primadonas and expect to not get shit results. They need to cull alot of average players starting with the likes of Cam Jones, Rubuen Forest etc. The SL Reserves side that won the comp the year before need to remain in Ressies. They aren't good enough to play at the top level.

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Epping is cool ()
Date: December 02, 2020 06:19PM

Stan here EP FC coach....Very Frustrating....NER found an NPL player and stuffed up his registration for the first 3 games or the season. No one can tell me yes or no if rego is legit. if ileagal surely they are gone. December now and preseason starts mid january.. Our better players ar looking for other options because i have no info. Our president Mal cant be seen to be bias so nothing from him.. FU$K....

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Epping is uncool ()
Date: December 03, 2020 08:05AM

If youre worried just start planning for the superleague where you belong.

Is it really that important to you that you get to play premierleague instead of superleague so you can feel superior for 90mins every Saturday? puts some lead in the old pencil?

This isn't a challenge to stay in the EPL or the champions league its park football, not like youre missing out on the big TV rights deal

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Justice ()
Date: December 03, 2020 08:50AM

Yeah but would rather play a shit team on a synthetic than a shit team on NER's dustbowl

Rooting for Epping!

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Tuesdays @ Stoke ()
Date: December 03, 2020 08:55AM

Justice Wrote:
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> Yeah but would rather play a shit team on a
> synthetic than a shit team on NER's dustbowl
>
> Rooting for Epping!


I was hoping that Saints would be the team in the doghouse for illegal rego because playing at Pudding is the EPL equivalent of playing on a cold Tuesday night at Stoke.

Agree though, we need Epping to stay up for the synthetic.

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Re: NER are a bunch of Rats
Posted by: Reasonable ()
Date: December 03, 2020 11:00AM

Epping is uncool Wrote:
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> If youre worried just start planning for the
> superleague where you belong.
>
> Is it really that important to you that you get to
> play premierleague instead of superleague so you
> can feel superior for 90mins every Saturday? puts
> some lead in the old pencil?
>
> This isn't a challenge to stay in the EPL or the
> champions league its park football, not like youre
> missing out on the big TV rights deal

Tbh I think it's a reasonable point for both clubs. Who would want to try out for those two clubs if they don't know whether or not they are in PL or not?

Decision needs to be made soon for everyone's sake including this forum. We are almost at 80 posts about the same topic. That's embarrassing

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