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Re: Results - Round 3
Posted by: The Northern KFC Colonel ()
Date: July 20, 2020 10:40PM

If the back-pass rule was never brought in, we’d have won a Champion of Champions by now.

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Re: Results - Round 3
Posted by: Mark Clattenberg ()
Date: July 20, 2020 10:41PM

Hamo all I'll say is basically what I said last year in the Super League forum after the semi-final games. The referee's that get picked to referee any game in PL/SL, aren't there because someone flipped a coin and thought it was a good idea. They have had years of experience refereeing through the ranks, being assessed by the best and mentored by the best (most likely have gone through the FNSW path) so they ain't no amateurs.

First Grade is played at a different pace, different type of aggression and different atmosphere to Ressies. It takes a slight bit of time to adjust to that differential. It's possible that the referee had a bad game and thus the judgment from William/Rock. It's also possible that there's a whole lot of whinging for no reason whatsoever. As far as I know, no red cards were given, nor TD's so clearly the game didn't go so out of control that players lost their heads because of it.

Most PL teams do this already but learn to read your referee. What is he/she harsh on and what do they wave away and adjust to that. If they're someone that's harsh on dissent, then zip up the mouths. If they're chill on challenges, then you calm the anxiety when attempting etc. etc. At this level, you probably need to learn to master the skill. Saves alot of frustration

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Re: Results - Round 3
Posted by: Juice ()
Date: July 21, 2020 11:12PM

Hamish Wrote:
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> Knew you would come into bat for your fellow refs
> Mark. You probably would bat for Pollie when he
> gave 3 yellows in a WC game lol
>
> I'm guessing you know who we're talking about...
> It's pretty clear to me that most of the young
> refs,especially the girls can't control heated
> football games.

Hamish, it’s a shame you choose to focus on the perception of a referee’s alleged inability to control a game, rather than the inability of grown ‘men’ to remember that it’s just park football. Perhaps we’re all adjusting to extraordinary circumstances at the moment.

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Re: Results - Round 3
Posted by: THE ROCK ()
Date: July 22, 2020 10:47AM

Mark,

Like i said, I'm all for youth coming through the ranks and have no issues with male/female refs, but the point i was making is that particular match was pretty bad. And it wasn't because of just the main ref, it was the AR who reffed reserve grade.

I have video footage of the EFC game if you are a ref and want to review it independently.

Either way, a refs primary role is the protect players. We had a pretty brutal challenge from a known offender in the first 2 mins. If you don't book players early for stupidity, then it sets the bar for the rest of the game.

You can't judge if a game was out of control by red cards.

Just like last year in the ressies semi final v penno there were 11 yellows and 1 red, that was the other end of the spectrum.

Just saying. You have really good controllers of the game in guys like Juice, Reidy not reffing first grade which in my view is a waste.

Just my 2c.

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Re: Results - Round 3
Posted by: Batts* ()
Date: July 22, 2020 01:07PM

Are you and Reidy still dating?

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Re: Results - Round 3
Posted by: Old timer ()
Date: July 23, 2020 07:44PM

Juice Wrote:
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> Hamish Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Knew you would come into bat for your fellow
> refs
> > Mark. You probably would bat for Pollie when he
> > gave 3 yellows in a WC game lol
> >
> > I'm guessing you know who we're talking
> about...
> > It's pretty clear to me that most of the young
> > refs,especially the girls can't control heated
> > football games.
>
> Hamish, it’s a shame you choose to focus on the
> perception of a referee’s alleged inability to
> control a game, rather than the inability of grown
> ‘men’ to remember that it’s just park
> football. Perhaps we’re all adjusting to
> extraordinary circumstances at the moment.

Completely agree with you here juice
But it's also a bit rich coming from a former bushboy
The kenthurst sideline loved to insult refs

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Re: Results - Round 3
Posted by: Bush ()
Date: July 24, 2020 07:36PM

Old timer Wrote:
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> Juice Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hamish Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Knew you would come into bat for your fellow
> > refs
> > > Mark. You probably would bat for Pollie when
> he
> > > gave 3 yellows in a WC game lol
> > >
> > > I'm guessing you know who we're talking
> > about...
> > > It's pretty clear to me that most of the
> young
> > > refs,especially the girls can't control
> heated
> > > football games.
> >
> > Hamish, it’s a shame you choose to focus on
> the
> > perception of a referee’s alleged inability
> to
> > control a game, rather than the inability of
> grown
> > ‘men’ to remember that it’s just park
> > football. Perhaps we’re all adjusting to
> > extraordinary circumstances at the moment.
>
> Completely agree with you here juice
> But it's also a bit rich coming from a former
> bushboy
> The kenthurst sideline loved to insult refs

Think you would probably find juice was one of quietest amongst that rabble.

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