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GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: FBI ()
Date: June 16, 2019 10:42AM

Here it is.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: Ned ()
Date: June 16, 2019 01:23PM

Ok,so what’s this all mean?

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: Mike Dean ()
Date: June 16, 2019 02:21PM

Ned Wrote:
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> Ok,so what’s this all mean?


more women referees?

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: FBI ()
Date: June 16, 2019 03:11PM

Means GHFA is no more, the North West Sydney Football Ltd is the new legal entity and they’ll be no change to the pool of referees.

The women’s association will get a representation of 2 on the incoming board.

Better off asking the GHFA staff and current board as I’m sure there are things not being disclosed on the merger.

I’d start by outing the current Chair of the GHFA Board

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: Mike Dean ()
Date: June 16, 2019 04:37PM

FBI Wrote:
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> Means GHFA is no more, the North West Sydney
> Football Ltd is the new legal entity and they’ll
> be no change to the pool of referees.
>
> The women’s association will get a
> representation of 2 on the incoming board.
>
> Better off asking the GHFA staff and current board
> as I’m sure there are things not being disclosed
> on the merger.
>
> I’d start by outing the current Chair of the
> GHFA Board



outing.. ya mean he is a closet?

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: FBI ()
Date: June 16, 2019 05:36PM

Isn’t the Chair a female.

Not outed as in coming out of the closet.

I meant getting the punt.

Not so sure if she has had the best interest of GHFA first.

Double agent comes to mind, sharing sensitive information.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: Mike Dean ()
Date: June 16, 2019 05:52PM

[footballnsw.com.au]

we don't need them - for obvious reason(s) they need us. Didn't they split away to form their own 'koalas'. Maybe they have run out of fun ,,or fund$

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: FBI ()
Date: June 16, 2019 06:18PM

Board minutes and steering committee minutes should clearly explain why or maybe the real dialogue has been replaced by something else.

GHFA members have been hoodwinked by one of their own and the other association.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: THE ROCK ()
Date: June 16, 2019 08:51PM

I’m happy to stand corrected but I would imagine that there would be a large amount of work that would be doubled up running 2 parallel associations and it would probably make sense if the resources were reallocated to improve everything for men’s and women’s.

That said, I would imagine this would be a cost cutting exercise, otherwise it’s hard to imagine the motivation?


What would be amazing is to see a GHFA women’s league setup with all ghfa clubs participating. From memory the women’s Comp/ teams are stand alone to the men’s teams and don’t directly align.

I know most of us probably don’t care about this, but with the popularity the women’s game is getting of late, and the introduction of the hills Comp, it would be a positive change to capture this growing pool of players.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: TG ()
Date: June 17, 2019 11:52AM

I remember when I was the rangers delegate and clubs wanted to start up some women’s teams and GHFA shut it down at a meeting and said women’s football won’t take off so the clubs went else where.This merge is all about money and GHFA being the biggest association in football NSW. As for the GHFA president she’s doing a fine job keeping all those big ego blokes in check.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: HG ()
Date: June 17, 2019 05:32PM

President of the women’s?

Isn’t lockie in charge of the men’s?

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: TG ()
Date: June 18, 2019 12:45PM

Lockie’s the GM.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: THE ROCK ()
Date: June 18, 2019 01:28PM

So much wisdom TG.

Between, yourself, Juice and Jethro is there any part of GHFA history you can't cover?

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: TG ()
Date: June 18, 2019 03:10PM

Who’s coaching Hawks these days.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: Jethro ()
Date: June 18, 2019 09:28PM

Some interesting information contained in the FNSW link from Mike Dean's post.

GHFA (originally called the Hornsby-Epping Soccer Football Association), had its origins in 1952 with the foundation club of Epping (now known as Epping Eastwood FC).

In 1956, the Association changed its name to Northern District Football Association...........

...............in 1959 it was necessary to again change the name to the current day Gladesville Hornsby Football Association.

I picked up the attached pocket a couple of years ago in an Op Shop.

I'll be sad to see the name change if the merger goes through.

Could be a good opportunity to get rid of the Koala's.

How many suburbs in GHFA would have Koala's these days?

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: norman harvie ()
Date: June 18, 2019 09:46PM

FBI Wrote:
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> Board minutes and steering committee minutes
> should clearly explain why or maybe the real
> dialogue has been replaced by something else.
>
> GHFA members have been hoodwinked by one of their
> own and the other association.


Surely all the member clubs will have a say in this..?
but then again -maybe not. They couldn't move the last heavy weight who stayed and over-stayed..

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: Old School Hawk ()
Date: June 19, 2019 11:11AM

TG Wrote:
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> Who’s coaching Hawks these days.


Rumours have it the old manager Starsky has taken back over.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: TG ()
Date: June 19, 2019 11:43AM

Sounds to me FBI and norman harvie are the same person and maybe on the board or been voted off the board.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: Mr I ()
Date: June 19, 2019 12:10PM

norman harvie Wrote:
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> FBI Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Board minutes and steering committee minutes
> > should clearly explain why or maybe the real
> > dialogue has been replaced by something else.
> >
> > GHFA members have been hoodwinked by one of
> their
> > own and the other association.
>
>
> Surely all the member clubs will have a say in
> this..?
> but then again -maybe not. They couldn't move the
> last heavy weight who stayed and over-stayed..

Are you referring to the great Mr Iredale?

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: FBI ()
Date: June 19, 2019 04:42PM

Not referring to Ross.

His time has come and gone.

Member clubs will certainly have a vote on matters but the real devil is in the detail.
That’s the reason I suggested acquiring the minutes of Board meetings to keep them honest.

Someone should really have very close look at the financials of the women’s association as unfortunately for them and possibly the merger they have a issue with the ATO.
More on that shortly as facts begin to leak.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: THE ROCK ()
Date: June 19, 2019 05:46PM

Sounds like you have some pretty strong inside info.

Please do tell as it will affect all involved including all clubs in the GHFA.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: norman harvie ()
Date: June 19, 2019 09:28PM

TG Wrote:
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> Sounds to me FBI and norman harvie are the same
> person and maybe on the board or been voted off
> the board.



yeah , we are con-joint

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: FBI ()
Date: June 19, 2019 11:00PM

I don’t need to run 2 usernames on here.

If I feel like talking to myself, I can do that by standing in front of a mirror.

Certainly not a current or past Board member, but more like Hermes, messenger of the Gods.

One of the problems with football is sorting the facts from fiction.

Club delegates will tell their members from meetings everything is running smoothly, but when an forensic investigation into certain things occur it is anything but.

The job of those in positions of power and responsibility is to ensure the leak of sensitive and damaging information is refuted or clouded by counter claims.

Certain Board members from both camps have colluded to concealed vital information with regards to the merger.

The biggest concealment are the financial records going back many seasons.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: Mirror man ()
Date: June 20, 2019 06:47AM

And how do you get to see the books.
And last time I played football it was with a ball not with fact or fiction.
Your a classic Dick Tracy nob head.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: FBI ()
Date: June 20, 2019 07:31AM

Name calling, how immature.

Financial records are provided to club delegates at the AGM after season end.

I put this to you, if you were to form a business partnership wouldn’t you want to review you new partner financial history to ensure that can contribute and meet costs.

As for football being played with a ball and not a bat on the field, you are correct, but this thread is about off field association matters that will effect every member of the association if due diligence is followed.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: Dick Tracey ()
Date: June 20, 2019 11:12AM

>And last time I played football it was with a ball not with fact or fiction.

he is with the O45s Div 4

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: THE ROCK ()
Date: June 20, 2019 12:05PM

Mirror man Wrote:
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> And how do you get to see the books.
> And last time I played football it was with a ball
> not with fact or fiction.
> Your a classic Dick Tracy nob head.


Pretty easily when a summary of the General Ledger is put in the full AGM.

Not that i've personally seen them, but every organisation/club has a treasurer and they compile a Balance sheet in prep for each AGM(well for every committee i've sat on)

I'm assuming FBI has had access to one or multiple to pickup the trend.

And FBI is 100% correct - how financial a association is, should determine a number of key factors in the merger if it is at all going ahead.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: FBI ()
Date: June 21, 2019 11:48AM

This attachment is the key issue.

Ladies association has been levelling GST on items that don’t incur GST such as fines.
The table of fines clearly shows GST to be added.
Invoices sent to clubs shows the GST component.
This has been going on for 19 years and when you consider how much a club pays in fines each year, then multiply that by the number of clubs, then multiply that by the number of years.

Who knows how much will be left in the account after this.

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: Ned ()
Date: June 21, 2019 12:30PM

FBI,I don’t mean to sound dumb but who’s taking over who and why?
Your attachment didn’t show figures or gst

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Re: GHFA-NWSWFA Merger
Posted by: FBI ()
Date: June 21, 2019 12:43PM

It’s not a takeover as such, both associations are merging and FNSW have granted an in principle agreement.
The ladies association gets 2 members on the new board for the first 12 months and then it’s open slather.
The ladies association has been rather secretive as to their financial status and the GST issue is a major one that literally could see any monetary amount they bring to the merge decrease alarmingly or even in the red.
As for figures, to be exact on how much, it means extracting all of the financial records from the Department of Fair Trading for the last 19 years to ascertain how much GST been incorrectly levied to every club.
Fines are GST free, yet that attachment shows they add it.
Revenue for an association relating to fines is serious money and the ladies association have a field day hitting up clubs for anything and everything.

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