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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: No ()
Date: July 18, 2017 10:31PM

hmmmm Wrote:
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> so if EEW have the premiership wrapped up by more
> than 3 points on Sat 5th, they will forfeit and
> give NOR the 3 points if they are close to the
> 4????


It'll be a draw

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: cheats ()
Date: July 19, 2017 07:28AM

tin foil hat Wrote:
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> so eew have convinced GHFA to let them replay the
> normo game, and gotten out of a points deduction
> for an extra man on the team sheet.
>
> Whats next for the tigers?


they also somehow got away with not having points deducted for too many cards during a single match

looks like the ghfa wants the tigers to win

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Wew lad ()
Date: July 19, 2017 10:52AM

cheats Wrote:
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> tin foil hat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so eew have convinced GHFA to let them replay
> the
> > normo game, and gotten out of a points
> deduction
> > for an extra man on the team sheet.
> >
> > Whats next for the tigers?
>
>
> they also somehow got away with not having points
> deducted for too many cards during a single match
>
> looks like the ghfa wants the tigers to win


Here we go

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: um? ()
Date: July 19, 2017 11:38AM

any reasonable response as to why they keep getting away with breaking the rules?

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Web cam ()
Date: July 19, 2017 11:56AM

Because you touch yourself at night.

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Response ()
Date: July 19, 2017 12:56PM

um? Wrote:
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> any reasonable response as to why they keep
> getting away with breaking the rules?

Clubs are issued a warning the first time a team gets 5 yellows in a match. This is for every club. EEW not the only club to get a warning.

The GHFA introduced electronic teamsheets at the start of the year, knowing that its a new system and mistakes would be made GHFA stated their leaniency at the start of the year to minor mistakes on a team sheet.

The EEW/NMH game isn't 100% going ahead. The game will only be replayed if it has potential to affect premiership results, otherwise the result will be recorded as a draw.

Anything else?

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Drewza ()
Date: July 19, 2017 02:06PM

Only doing a reply if it will help EEW is pretty weird.

If the point was the only thing keeping normo from getting relegated would the replay to give them a chance to go down?

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: what he meant ()
Date: July 19, 2017 02:19PM

i think he meant the game will only be played if it has any real effect on the final standings of the comp
and because normo cant make finals and cant get relegated the only effect the game has is on eews standing at the top

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Drezadumbdumb ()
Date: July 19, 2017 02:26PM

Drewza Wrote:
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> Only doing a reply if it will help EEW is pretty
> weird.
>
> If the point was the only thing keeping normo from
> getting relegated would the replay to give them a
> chance to go down?

A little slow Drewza?

If EEW and PEN were on even points, though EEW had better goal difference, then the match would still need to be replayed. Why? Because if NOR won, this would impact on the EEW goal difference and PEN could potentially take the premiership.

It will be replayed if it effects the premiership, for or against EEW.

The same if it effected the relegation battle.

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: draw? ()
Date: July 19, 2017 03:14PM

if they finished on equal points couldnt they just take the draw?

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Drewza ()
Date: July 19, 2017 03:31PM

Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if it will effect the premiership'

How happy would people be if they did this for everything?

"Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't matter so we wont reschedule"
"Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your team can't make finals"
"You're safe from relegation so you can just have the trainee ref"

Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the table

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Billy ()
Date: July 19, 2017 03:37PM

So, if it needs to be replayed, eew will
Be playing for the premiership and Normo playing for nothing.... what a silly decision.

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: mates rates ()
Date: July 19, 2017 03:50PM

Drewza Wrote:
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> Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if
> it will effect the premiership'
>
> How happy would people be if they did this for
> everything?
>
> "Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't
> matter so we wont reschedule"
> "Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your
> team can't make finals"
> "You're safe from relegation so you can just have
> the trainee ref"
>
> Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the
> table

i think youre forgetting that eew are the new wph

the ghfa have different rules for them

they get appointed their mate refs every game too

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Guy ()
Date: July 19, 2017 04:54PM

Drewza Wrote:
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> Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if
> it will effect the premiership'
>
> How happy would people be if they did this for
> everything?
>
> "Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't
> matter so we wont reschedule"
> "Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your
> team can't make finals"
> "You're safe from relegation so you can just have
> the trainee ref"
>
> Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the
> table

As has been discussed in previous threads, there IS NO RULE with regards to replaying abandoned games. So in lieu of a rule, a compromise had to be made (even though precedence would direct towards the match finishing as a draw)

Im all for playing the game however the notice for it will be extremely short and most likely played on a sunday

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: JJefrey ()
Date: July 19, 2017 07:43PM

>>As has been discussed in previous threads, there IS NO RULE with regards to replaying abandoned game

how sh&t is that.. after 50+ yrs there are no rules

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: You're an idiot drew ()
Date: July 19, 2017 08:12PM

Drewza Wrote:
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> Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if
> it will effect the premiership'
>
> How happy would people be if they did this for
> everything?
>
> "Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't
> matter so we wont reschedule"
> "Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your
> team can't make finals"
> "You're safe from relegation so you can just have
> the trainee ref"
>
> Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the
> table

Every single rained out game gets replayed. No exceptions.

Players get suspended if they accrue enough yellows, no exceptions. Players get suspended if they get a red card no exceptions. It's up to refs to put in the yellow cards accrued in each game.

Referees are appointed with many factors involved (including referees local proximity to fixtures, referees proximity to fixtures after their own game etc. ). No trainee refs are appointed to middle a game, only to run the flag on the sideline and everyone gets the 14 yr olds who aren't always great.

Honestly if you put a minute or two of thought into any of your points before posting you'd save outing yourself as a simple fella

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: well ()
Date: July 19, 2017 09:17PM

Drewza Wrote:
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> Only doing a reply if it will help EEW is pretty
> weird.
>
> If the point was the only thing keeping normo from
> getting relegated would the replay to give them a
> chance to go down?

It wont help them if NMH win

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Rules ()
Date: July 19, 2017 11:25PM

8.1.15. Except where specifically varied in these By Laws, no addition is to be made to the duration of either half of the game in the event of time being lost due to injury or any other occurrence that causes play to be suspended.

Rather than debating the rules, try reading the By-laws which govern the competition.

I also recall last season a midweek fixture between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended with some 20 minutes remaining because the floodlights switched off. The GHFA decreed the result (0-0, at the point the lights went out) stood.

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: back to school ()
Date: July 20, 2017 07:31AM

ahahahahahahah eew getting schooled

also in regards to what you said about refs

eew had the same first grade ref both times we played them this year and by the way they were talking to each other it seemed like he had centered for them on more than those 2 occasions
and epping is pretty much in the middle of the comp area
my team is closer to the edge of the comp border and weve had a different ref every single game except for the games against eew
how does that work

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Web cam ()
Date: July 20, 2017 09:25AM

Rules Wrote:
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> 8.1.15. Except where specifically varied in these
> By Laws, no addition is to be made to the duration
> of either half of the game in the event of time
> being lost due to injury or any other occurrence
> that causes play to be suspended.
>
> Rather than debating the rules, try reading the
> By-laws which govern the competition.
>
> I also recall last season a midweek fixture
> between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended with
> some 20 minutes remaining because the floodlights
> switched off. The GHFA decreed the result (0-0,
> at the point the lights went out) stood.

Except there is injury time in first grade this season.. so time is stopped when a injury occurs... what a dumbarse

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Rules ()
Date: July 20, 2017 01:21PM

Web cam Wrote:
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> Rules Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 8.1.15. Except where specifically varied in
> these
> > By Laws, no addition is to be made to the
> duration
> > of either half of the game in the event of time
> > being lost due to injury or any other
> occurrence
> > that causes play to be suspended.
> >
> > Rather than debating the rules, try reading the
> > By-laws which govern the competition.
> >
> > I also recall last season a midweek fixture
> > between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended
> with
> > some 20 minutes remaining because the
> floodlights
> > switched off. The GHFA decreed the result
> (0-0,
> > at the point the lights went out) stood.
>
> Except there is injury time in first grade this
> season.. so time is stopped when a injury
> occurs... what a dumbarse

The By-laws govern the rules of the comp. if you want to change that it needs to be done before the competition starts. So the 2017 By-laws still has the above rule.

Also try reading the Laws of the Game

An abandoned match is replayed unless the competition rules or organisers

Just a thought or two in the conversation. No need to get all uptight and start throwing insults

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: BriscNOR ()
Date: July 20, 2017 01:29PM

Rules Wrote:
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> Web cam Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rules Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 8.1.15. Except where specifically varied in
> > these
> > > By Laws, no addition is to be made to the
> > duration
> > > of either half of the game in the event of
> time
> > > being lost due to injury or any other
> > occurrence
> > > that causes play to be suspended.
> > >
> > > Rather than debating the rules, try reading
> the
> > > By-laws which govern the competition.
> > >
> > > I also recall last season a midweek fixture
> > > between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended
> > with
> > > some 20 minutes remaining because the
> > floodlights
> > > switched off. The GHFA decreed the result
> > (0-0,
> > > at the point the lights went out) stood.
> >
> > Except there is injury time in first grade this
> > season.. so time is stopped when a injury
> > occurs... what a dumbarse
>
> The By-laws govern the rules of the comp. if you
> want to change that it needs to be done before the
> competition starts. So the 2017 By-laws still has
> the above rule.
>
> Also try reading the Laws of the Game
>
> An abandoned match is replayed unless the
> competition rules or organisers
>
> Just a thought or two in the conversation. No need
> to get all uptight and start throwing insults


Thanks Brisc for the insight

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: mooyus ()
Date: July 20, 2017 01:39PM

the rules also state

Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the
front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force
and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play

A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is
restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred
(see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred
inside the offender’s penalty area).

but mooyus gets away with it every week

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Lol ()
Date: July 20, 2017 04:08PM

mooyus Wrote:
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> the rules also state
>
> Any player who lunges at an opponent in
> challenging for the ball from the
> front, from the side or from behind using one or
> both legs, with excessive force
> and endangering the safety of an opponent is
> guilty of serious foul play
>
> A player who is guilty of serious foul play should
> be sent off and play is
> restarted with a direct free kick from the
> position where the offence occurred
> (see Law 13 – Position of free kick) or a
> penalty kick (if the offence occurred
> inside the offender’s penalty area).
>
> but mooyus gets away with it every week

That'll do donkey, that'll do.

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: First Grader ()
Date: July 20, 2017 08:49PM

Back to School,

The GHFRA appoints the refs not the Clubs. Having the same ref against the same opposition is just a random fluke.

There are at least half a dozen PL refs that have been in our comp for 10+ years with some for over 20 years. The refs living in the Hills area are more likely to stay in that area. Some actually come from the other side of Gladesville bridge so would rarely be asked to drive to Galston.

Half of the EEW side have been in PL for 6 to 10 years, like most of their forwards and backs who also find themselves in the refs books more often than the average player. I think most of the players in PL can name the bulk of the EEW side, but would struggle to name anyone from Uni but that's just due to familiarity. Same goes for the PL refs who have been in the comp for 10+ years. In a few years time this may change for the Uni squad.

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: ummm ()
Date: July 21, 2017 08:18AM

First Grader Wrote:
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> Back to School,
>
> The GHFRA appoints the refs not the Clubs. Having
> the same ref against the same opposition is just a
> random fluke.
>
> There are at least half a dozen PL refs that have
> been in our comp for 10+ years with some for over
> 20 years. The refs living in the Hills area are
> more likely to stay in that area. Some actually
> come from the other side of Gladesville bridge so
> would rarely be asked to drive to Galston.
>
> Half of the EEW side have been in PL for 6 to 10
> years, like most of their forwards and backs who
> also find themselves in the refs books more often
> than the average player. I think most of the
> players in PL can name the bulk of the EEW side,
> but would struggle to name anyone from Uni but
> that's just due to familiarity. Same goes for the
> PL refs who have been in the comp for 10+ years.
> In a few years time this may change for the Uni
> squad.


maybe you should go back to school and learn to read
noone said clubs appoint refs.................
classic eew though all brawn no brain

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NMH v EEW
Posted by: Whatif ()
Date: July 24, 2017 06:25PM

The Tigers can still come third if they lose their next two games and St Andrews win their last 2 games.

They can obviously also come first or second depending on results and may need to play for points to win the minor premiership.

I would have thought the Tigers wouldn't have wanted a double header the weekend before the semi's and definitely not the Wednesday after the last game. Someone must know the weather will be fine that last weekend with no chance of a wash out?
Can't believe a replay hasn't been scheduled earlier.

Has anything been locked in?

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: If ()
Date: July 24, 2017 07:20PM

If Tigers win there next two games they win the Comp,
They will be equal with Peno, then they get a point for a draw against normo, and they win.
It is their comp to lose.
No need for a replay

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: Joke ()
Date: July 24, 2017 07:34PM

If they are equal it should be replayed. It works both ways..

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Re: NMH v EEW
Posted by: must be from peno ()
Date: July 24, 2017 09:00PM

joke you must be from peno,
everyone else can beat or draw with normo

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