Heard that GHFA competition secretary approached by EEW. Being an Ex Normo guy he deferred decision to rest of GHFA committee.
They agreed to replay.
Feel for Normo, big injury list plus lost their left back to season ending injury during the game last weekend.
Hopefully a few EEW boys have prior engagements Saturday evening and Normo spring an upset.
The only people complaining about this match being replayed are the coaches/players from NER & WPH because it's likely EEW will get the win and jump back on top of the ladder.
It should be replayed, a match isn't 45 mins or whatever they played long, its 90 mins.
Weekend competition 10 - 12 June - CANCELLED
Unfortunately the last downpour has closed more grounds and the Sat and Sun fixtures are now ALL cancelled and will be rescheduled to later in the season.
A decision on Monday's matches will be made later on Saturday
Real thoughts Wrote:
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> The only people complaining about this match being
> replayed are the coaches/players from NER & WPH
> because it's likely EEW will get the win and jump
> back on top of the ladder.
>
> It should be replayed, a match isn't 45 mins or
> whatever they played long, its 90 mins.
You weren't saying that 3 yrs ago when you beat the Bush boys in 50 miss
Apparently this was moved again because Normo complained they have too many injuries and people away this weekend. Welcome to the round ball game lads. Obviousky helps having former Normo members on the GHFA committee. Lucky today's fixtures got cancelled cause by the sounds of if they would have had their over 35's team instead of their lippy kids running around.
Right is subjective, the big question is what is right??
if you are EEW then the right is to replay the game,
if you are WPH NER or KEN then right is leave result as is, as this is what has happened in the past.
As there is nothing in the bylaws about abandoned games, there is no right or wrong, it is just a matter of opinion.
I can't remember an abandoned game being replayed in the GHFA,
I can remember the EEW v KEN in 2014,and some games being called early due to a thunder storm, in both cases these games were not replayed.
n 2014 EEW made to top 4, had the game been replayed and KEN won, EEW would not have mades the 4 & KEN would have got 51 points with only one loss in the season.
I believe we should have an update to the bylaws so that it is clear to everyone when an abandoned game is to be replayed, so that we all know what right is.
There are also other questions that need to be considered:-
1.When should injured players be moved off the field of play
2. Should clubs have access to the light so that the game can continue after dark, now that we play time added on in 1st grade
3. do cards issued in the original game still stand?
Yes I was there Fake, and the agreement not to play the possible 15/20 mins in the light available, and I made it clear that games are not normaly replayed, your manager said that the game will be replayed, and we left it at that, There was no agreement to replay, as this is a GHFA decision, in the absents of a bylaw
Brisc,
It was a mutual agreement by EEW and NMH to replay the game, and not play another 20mins. You were there!
Any team wanting to take a draw, clearly has no ambition.
You might want to ask your skipper then Brisc, everyone clearly heard both captains say replay the game at a later date cause of the lack of light, to which the referee said he will submit in the match report. The Normo captain even asked his team mates so you can't put all the blame on EEW.
That is not my recollection of events,
What I remember is the captains agreeing to not play the 20 mins available.
I remember the Normo coach saying that we would rather play 20 mins sudden death now than a replay later.
Your managers comments on the e'team sheet that he showed us before he submitted made no mention of a replay,
I to made similar comments, will be interesting to see the refs interpretation.
I am not blaming EEW at all, I am giving you my recollection, and that happens not to be the same as yours, unfortunately.
One would say Brisc's version of events seems to heavily favour Normo and as they put it 'lack of players' at the moment. Anything to avoid copping a hiding I guess.
From a neutral perspective it should be replayed, if it was my team I'd want it replayed. A game is 90 mins long, not 45 or 20 mins 'sudden death'.
Interestingly a similar situation happened in a u18s fixture between Wollongong and sydney fc in the state leaving except there was a blackout and a loss of power/light. 60 mins were played.
The decision was to play the balance of the game at a later date and all prior cards/goals/subs stood!
curious george Wrote:
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> so, is this to be replayed, or just the balance of
> time?
not being replayed at all
nil all draw result stands
..so in 2017 there 're no by-laws in the GHFA governing replays?
is it still make-up & go?
by 2018 there might be 3 artificial turfs..& still no play on rained-out days
wow looks like the tigers have successfully b*tched there way to a replay
how ironic, the biggest time wasters in the comp complaining that they didnt get to play a full game
george Wrote:
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> When is this to be replayed?
Its only going to be played on Sunday the 6th if its going to change positions on the table
so eew have convinced GHFA to let them replay the normo game, and gotten out of a points deduction for an extra man on the team sheet.
Whats next for the tigers?
hmmmm Wrote:
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> so if EEW have the premiership wrapped up by more
> than 3 points on Sat 5th, they will forfeit and
> give NOR the 3 points if they are close to the
> 4????
It'll be a draw
tin foil hat Wrote:
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> so eew have convinced GHFA to let them replay the
> normo game, and gotten out of a points deduction
> for an extra man on the team sheet.
>
> Whats next for the tigers?
they also somehow got away with not having points deducted for too many cards during a single match
looks like the ghfa wants the tigers to win
cheats Wrote:
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> tin foil hat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so eew have convinced GHFA to let them replay
> the
> > normo game, and gotten out of a points
> deduction
> > for an extra man on the team sheet.
> >
> > Whats next for the tigers?
>
>
> they also somehow got away with not having points
> deducted for too many cards during a single match
>
> looks like the ghfa wants the tigers to win
Here we go
um? Wrote:
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> any reasonable response as to why they keep
> getting away with breaking the rules?
Clubs are issued a warning the first time a team gets 5 yellows in a match. This is for every club. EEW not the only club to get a warning.
The GHFA introduced electronic teamsheets at the start of the year, knowing that its a new system and mistakes would be made GHFA stated their leaniency at the start of the year to minor mistakes on a team sheet.
The EEW/NMH game isn't 100% going ahead. The game will only be replayed if it has potential to affect premiership results, otherwise the result will be recorded as a draw.
Anything else?
Drewza Wrote:
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> Only doing a reply if it will help EEW is pretty
> weird.
>
> If the point was the only thing keeping normo from
> getting relegated would the replay to give them a
> chance to go down?
A little slow Drewza?
If EEW and PEN were on even points, though EEW had better goal difference, then the match would still need to be replayed. Why? Because if NOR won, this would impact on the EEW goal difference and PEN could potentially take the premiership.
It will be replayed if it effects the premiership, for or against EEW.
The same if it effected the relegation battle.
Only doing a reply if it will help EEW is pretty weird.
If the point was the only thing keeping normo from getting relegated would the replay to give them a chance to go down?
i think he meant the game will only be played if it has any real effect on the final standings of the comp
and because normo cant make finals and cant get relegated the only effect the game has is on eews standing at the top
Drewza Wrote:
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> Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if
> it will effect the premiership'
>
> How happy would people be if they did this for
> everything?
>
> "Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't
> matter so we wont reschedule"
> "Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your
> team can't make finals"
> "You're safe from relegation so you can just have
> the trainee ref"
>
> Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the
> table
i think youre forgetting that eew are the new wph
the ghfa have different rules for them
they get appointed their mate refs every game too
Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if it will effect the premiership'
How happy would people be if they did this for everything?
"Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't matter so we wont reschedule"
"Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your team can't make finals"
"You're safe from relegation so you can just have the trainee ref"
Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the table
Drewza Wrote:
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> Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if
> it will effect the premiership'
>
> How happy would people be if they did this for
> everything?
>
> "Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't
> matter so we wont reschedule"
> "Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your
> team can't make finals"
> "You're safe from relegation so you can just have
> the trainee ref"
>
> Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the
> table
As has been discussed in previous threads, there IS NO RULE with regards to replaying abandoned games. So in lieu of a rule, a compromise had to be made (even though precedence would direct towards the match finishing as a draw)
Im all for playing the game however the notice for it will be extremely short and most likely played on a sunday
>>As has been discussed in previous threads, there IS NO RULE with regards to replaying abandoned game
how sh&t is that.. after 50+ yrs there are no rules
Drewza Wrote:
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> Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if
> it will effect the premiership'
>
> How happy would people be if they did this for
> everything?
>
> "Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't
> matter so we wont reschedule"
> "Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your
> team can't make finals"
> "You're safe from relegation so you can just have
> the trainee ref"
>
> Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the
> table
Every single rained out game gets replayed. No exceptions.
Players get suspended if they accrue enough yellows, no exceptions. Players get suspended if they get a red card no exceptions. It's up to refs to put in the yellow cards accrued in each game.
Referees are appointed with many factors involved (including referees local proximity to fixtures, referees proximity to fixtures after their own game etc. ). No trainee refs are appointed to middle a game, only to run the flag on the sideline and everyone gets the 14 yr olds who aren't always great.
Honestly if you put a minute or two of thought into any of your points before posting you'd save outing yourself as a simple fella
Drewza Wrote:
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> Only doing a reply if it will help EEW is pretty
> weird.
>
> If the point was the only thing keeping normo from
> getting relegated would the replay to give them a
> chance to go down?
It wont help them if NMH win
8.1.15. Except where specifically varied in these By Laws, no addition is to be made to the duration of either half of the game in the event of time being lost due to injury or any other occurrence that causes play to be suspended.
Rather than debating the rules, try reading the By-laws which govern the competition.
I also recall last season a midweek fixture between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended with some 20 minutes remaining because the floodlights switched off. The GHFA decreed the result (0-0, at the point the lights went out) stood.
ahahahahahahah eew getting schooled
also in regards to what you said about refs
eew had the same first grade ref both times we played them this year and by the way they were talking to each other it seemed like he had centered for them on more than those 2 occasions
and epping is pretty much in the middle of the comp area
my team is closer to the edge of the comp border and weve had a different ref every single game except for the games against eew
how does that work
Rules Wrote:
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> 8.1.15. Except where specifically varied in these
> By Laws, no addition is to be made to the duration
> of either half of the game in the event of time
> being lost due to injury or any other occurrence
> that causes play to be suspended.
>
> Rather than debating the rules, try reading the
> By-laws which govern the competition.
>
> I also recall last season a midweek fixture
> between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended with
> some 20 minutes remaining because the floodlights
> switched off. The GHFA decreed the result (0-0,
> at the point the lights went out) stood.
Except there is injury time in first grade this season.. so time is stopped when a injury occurs... what a dumbarse
Web cam Wrote:
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> Rules Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 8.1.15. Except where specifically varied in
> these
> > By Laws, no addition is to be made to the
> duration
> > of either half of the game in the event of time
> > being lost due to injury or any other
> occurrence
> > that causes play to be suspended.
> >
> > Rather than debating the rules, try reading the
> > By-laws which govern the competition.
> >
> > I also recall last season a midweek fixture
> > between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended
> with
> > some 20 minutes remaining because the
> floodlights
> > switched off. The GHFA decreed the result
> (0-0,
> > at the point the lights went out) stood.
>
> Except there is injury time in first grade this
> season.. so time is stopped when a injury
> occurs... what a dumbarse
The By-laws govern the rules of the comp. if you want to change that it needs to be done before the competition starts. So the 2017 By-laws still has the above rule.
Also try reading the Laws of the Game
An abandoned match is replayed unless the competition rules or organisers
Just a thought or two in the conversation. No need to get all uptight and start throwing insults
Rules Wrote:
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> Web cam Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rules Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 8.1.15. Except where specifically varied in
> > these
> > > By Laws, no addition is to be made to the
> > duration
> > > of either half of the game in the event of
> time
> > > being lost due to injury or any other
> > occurrence
> > > that causes play to be suspended.
> > >
> > > Rather than debating the rules, try reading
> the
> > > By-laws which govern the competition.
> > >
> > > I also recall last season a midweek fixture
> > > between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended
> > with
> > > some 20 minutes remaining because the
> > floodlights
> > > switched off. The GHFA decreed the result
> > (0-0,
> > > at the point the lights went out) stood.
> >
> > Except there is injury time in first grade this
> > season.. so time is stopped when a injury
> > occurs... what a dumbarse
>
> The By-laws govern the rules of the comp. if you
> want to change that it needs to be done before the
> competition starts. So the 2017 By-laws still has
> the above rule.
>
> Also try reading the Laws of the Game
>
> An abandoned match is replayed unless the
> competition rules or organisers
>
> Just a thought or two in the conversation. No need
> to get all uptight and start throwing insults
Thanks Brisc for the insight
the rules also state
Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the
front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force
and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play
A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is
restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred
(see Law 13 Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred
inside the offenders penalty area).
but mooyus gets away with it every week
the rules also state
Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the
front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force
and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play
A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is
restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred
(see Law 13 Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred
inside the offenders penalty area).
but mooyus gets away with it every week
mooyus Wrote:
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> the rules also state
>
> Any player who lunges at an opponent in
> challenging for the ball from the
> front, from the side or from behind using one or
> both legs, with excessive force
> and endangering the safety of an opponent is
> guilty of serious foul play
>
> A player who is guilty of serious foul play should
> be sent off and play is
> restarted with a direct free kick from the
> position where the offence occurred
> (see Law 13 Position of free kick) or a
> penalty kick (if the offence occurred
> inside the offenders penalty area).
>
> but mooyus gets away with it every week
That'll do donkey, that'll do.
Back to School,
The GHFRA appoints the refs not the Clubs. Having the same ref against the same opposition is just a random fluke.
There are at least half a dozen PL refs that have been in our comp for 10+ years with some for over 20 years. The refs living in the Hills area are more likely to stay in that area. Some actually come from the other side of Gladesville bridge so would rarely be asked to drive to Galston.
Half of the EEW side have been in PL for 6 to 10 years, like most of their forwards and backs who also find themselves in the refs books more often than the average player. I think most of the players in PL can name the bulk of the EEW side, but would struggle to name anyone from Uni but that's just due to familiarity. Same goes for the PL refs who have been in the comp for 10+ years. In a few years time this may change for the Uni squad.
First Grader Wrote:
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> Back to School,
>
> The GHFRA appoints the refs not the Clubs. Having
> the same ref against the same opposition is just a
> random fluke.
>
> There are at least half a dozen PL refs that have
> been in our comp for 10+ years with some for over
> 20 years. The refs living in the Hills area are
> more likely to stay in that area. Some actually
> come from the other side of Gladesville bridge so
> would rarely be asked to drive to Galston.
>
> Half of the EEW side have been in PL for 6 to 10
> years, like most of their forwards and backs who
> also find themselves in the refs books more often
> than the average player. I think most of the
> players in PL can name the bulk of the EEW side,
> but would struggle to name anyone from Uni but
> that's just due to familiarity. Same goes for the
> PL refs who have been in the comp for 10+ years.
> In a few years time this may change for the Uni
> squad.
maybe you should go back to school and learn to read
noone said clubs appoint refs.................
classic eew though all brawn no brain
The Tigers can still come third if they lose their next two games and St Andrews win their last 2 games.
They can obviously also come first or second depending on results and may need to play for points to win the minor premiership.
I would have thought the Tigers wouldn't have wanted a double header the weekend before the semi's and definitely not the Wednesday after the last game. Someone must know the weather will be fine that last weekend with no chance of a wash out?
Can't believe a replay hasn't been scheduled earlier.
Has anything been locked in?
If Tigers win there next two games they win the Comp,
They will be equal with Peno, then they get a point for a draw against normo, and they win.
It is their comp to lose.
No need for a replay
must be from peno Wrote:
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> joke you must be from peno,
> everyone else can beat or draw with normo
Normo coming good
Drew with Hawks having had their keeper sent off
After 15 mins
Normo up for challenge
Miffed that they were not given point against EEW
If Wrote:
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> If Tigers win there next two games they win the
> Comp,
> They will be equal with Peno, then they get a
> point for a draw against normo, and they win.
> It is their comp to lose.
> No need for a replay
you cant just take the point when you want it
either the game was abandoned and needs to be replayed or it was a draw and there is no replay
you cant have it both ways
but i guess the tigers always get their favourite ref so they probably can have it both ways
Seems a few still don't understand the concept, so here it is simply:
- If any result in the NMH v EEW missing game will change the standings for the top four, the game will be played
- this HAS happened before in juniors, over 45, all age etc. ie holding a game back and only playing it if necessary. There is no conspiracy no matter how much some of you might want there to be one
as for the dribble about refs:
- GHFRA appoints the refs with a committee, refs don't choose games and teams never have a say
- refs like to enjoy football too which means they don't like divers, whingers, guys that fly in with elbows. Tigers are better now than past years but I think you'd still struggle to find a PL ref that would say 'I like Tigers I'm glad they're sending me to Boronia again'
Say what you want but the tigers will come undone,you see they have 4 quality players sitting on to many yellow cards and if those guys get cards against Normo then they'll miss the hawks game.Looks like they will play that game cause they'll need the points.Tom Forrest to take centre stage on Saturday.
No Tiger ref Wrote:
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> Seems a few still don't understand the concept, so
> here it is simply:
>
> - If any result in the NMH v EEW missing game will
> change the standings for the top four, the game
> will be played
>
> - this HAS happened before in juniors, over 45,
> all age etc. ie holding a game back and only
> playing it if necessary. There is no conspiracy no
> matter how much some of you might want there to be
> one
maybe if you could read we are understand what you are saying but are also stating that if eew and penno end up on the same points, eew shouldnt be able to just take the draw
the game should still be replayed
get it?
If results go as expected Penno & EEW will be on equal points after this round.
EEW would have won the comp if they had of accepted the 1 point off Normo
Now they will have to risk that point against an improved Normo who will want to prove a point (sorry about the pun).
Interesting end to season coming up!
justice Wrote:
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> If results go as expected Penno & EEW will be on
> equal points after this round.
>
> EEW would have won the comp if they had of
> accepted the 1 point off Normo
>
> Now they will have to risk that point against an
> improved Normo who will want to prove a point
> (sorry about the pun).
>
> Interesting end to season coming up!
EEW were always the team wanting it replayed from when the abandoned match occurred so not sure where you're getting your facts from?
?????? Wrote:
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> justice Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If results go as expected Penno & EEW will be
> on
> > equal points after this round.
> >
> > EEW would have won the comp if they had of
> > accepted the 1 point off Normo
> >
> > Now they will have to risk that point against
> an
> > improved Normo who will want to prove a point
> > (sorry about the pun).
> >
> > Interesting end to season coming up!
>
> EEW were always the team wanting it replayed from
> when the abandoned match occurred so not sure
> where you're getting your facts from?
English and logic not your strong point mate...?????
Normo Wrote:
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> Dear Penno,
>
> I am still in the city, and yes I am very very
> drunk.
>
> Love,
>
> Normo first grader
I wish i was as cool as you bro
Normo will always be known as tigers bitches if they throw the game today. Walkaed the ball in the back of the net to give them 3 points and then gave them the premiership 2 weeks later.
Bend over Wrote:
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> Normo will always be known as tigers bitches if
> they throw the game today. Walkaed the ball in the
> back of the net to give them 3 points and then
> gave them the premiership 2 weeks later.
If it wins the Tigers a premiership today I'm sure they'll keep bending them over too
EEW take a look at yourselves. All you needed was a point,and against NMH. Which isn't hard to do at all. You don't deserve to win the league after this
UNLUGGEEEEEEEEE
phoenix Wrote:
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> Lol
Scott Hadfield and finals football, something that never goes together in the same sentence.
hahaha Wrote:
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> hahha, just like seeing the tigers and premiers in
> the same sentance!
Your memory must be as good as your grammar
The whole league would have hoped for this result today. PEN the best team this year and hopefully EEW come away with nothing! I'll back PEN, STA or WPH against those grubs!!!
EEW counting their chickens early on Satday hahaha might need to go to the video ref to see what went wrong or maybe just not enough dog shots off the ball?
Either way, everyones having a good laugh.
Wowee
wrote on 09-Jun-17 11:07This just in...
If grounds are closed this weekend Normo v Tigers first grade game will be replayed at 5pm at Penno park
Stay tuned
mooyus
wrote on 09-Jun-17 12:04classic eew, when the results dont suit them they get the game replayed and neither team gets the home ground advantage eew is the new wph
Joking
wrote on 09-Jun-17 12:04Considering it's down as a draw on the GHFA website already, find it hard to believe.
NOT JOKING
wrote on 09-Jun-17 15:07Heard that GHFA competition secretary approached by EEW. Being an Ex Normo guy he deferred decision to rest of GHFA committee. They agreed to replay. Feel for Normo, big injury list plus lost their left back to season ending injury during the game last weekend. Hopefully a few EEW boys have prior engagements Saturday evening and Normo spring an upset.
Real thoughts
wrote on 09-Jun-17 17:05The only people complaining about this match being replayed are the coaches/players from NER & WPH because it's likely EEW will get the win and jump back on top of the ladder. It should be replayed, a match isn't 45 mins or whatever they played long, its 90 mins.
Hilksy
wrote on 09-Jun-17 17:05All fixtures have been cancelled tomorrow so does this means this game will definitely go ahead at Penno Park tomorrow?
Off
wrote on 09-Jun-17 18:00Weekend competition 10 - 12 June - CANCELLED Unfortunately the last downpour has closed more grounds and the Sat and Sun fixtures are now ALL cancelled and will be rescheduled to later in the season. A decision on Monday's matches will be made later on Saturday
On
wrote on 09-Jun-17 18:01Apparently the EEW boys have been told the game is on at 5pm due to being a replayed game.
Off
wrote on 09-Jun-17 18:02The PL1 NMH v EEW will be played at a later date to be advised
Off
wrote on 09-Jun-17 18:07Game called off - to be played at a later date.
phoenix
wrote on 09-Jun-17 23:06Real thoughts Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The only people complaining about this match being > replayed are the coaches/players from NER & WPH > because it's likely EEW will get the win and jump > back on top of the ladder. > > It should be replayed, a match isn't 45 mins or > whatever they played long, its 90 mins. You weren't saying that 3 yrs ago when you beat the Bush boys in 50 miss
Doesn't seem right
wrote on 10-Jun-17 07:04Apparently this was moved again because Normo complained they have too many injuries and people away this weekend. Welcome to the round ball game lads. Obviousky helps having former Normo members on the GHFA committee. Lucky today's fixtures got cancelled cause by the sounds of if they would have had their over 35's team instead of their lippy kids running around.
brisc
wrote on 10-Jun-17 17:02Right is subjective, the big question is what is right?? if you are EEW then the right is to replay the game, if you are WPH NER or KEN then right is leave result as is, as this is what has happened in the past. As there is nothing in the bylaws about abandoned games, there is no right or wrong, it is just a matter of opinion. I can't remember an abandoned game being replayed in the GHFA, I can remember the EEW v KEN in 2014,and some games being called early due to a thunder storm, in both cases these games were not replayed. n 2014 EEW made to top 4, had the game been replayed and KEN won, EEW would not have mades the 4 & KEN would have got 51 points with only one loss in the season. I believe we should have an update to the bylaws so that it is clear to everyone when an abandoned game is to be replayed, so that we all know what right is. There are also other questions that need to be considered:- 1.When should injured players be moved off the field of play 2. Should clubs have access to the light so that the game can continue after dark, now that we play time added on in 1st grade 3. do cards issued in the original game still stand?
brisc
wrote on 10-Jun-17 17:03Yes I was there Fake, and the agreement not to play the possible 15/20 mins in the light available, and I made it clear that games are not normaly replayed, your manager said that the game will be replayed, and we left it at that, There was no agreement to replay, as this is a GHFA decision, in the absents of a bylaw
Fake
wrote on 10-Jun-17 17:08Brisc, It was a mutual agreement by EEW and NMH to replay the game, and not play another 20mins. You were there! Any team wanting to take a draw, clearly has no ambition.
I was there too
wrote on 10-Jun-17 23:01You might want to ask your skipper then Brisc, everyone clearly heard both captains say replay the game at a later date cause of the lack of light, to which the referee said he will submit in the match report. The Normo captain even asked his team mates so you can't put all the blame on EEW.
brisc
wrote on 11-Jun-17 09:03That is not my recollection of events, What I remember is the captains agreeing to not play the 20 mins available. I remember the Normo coach saying that we would rather play 20 mins sudden death now than a replay later. Your managers comments on the e'team sheet that he showed us before he submitted made no mention of a replay, I to made similar comments, will be interesting to see the refs interpretation. I am not blaming EEW at all, I am giving you my recollection, and that happens not to be the same as yours, unfortunately.
Professor
wrote on 11-Jun-17 11:07One would say Brisc's version of events seems to heavily favour Normo and as they put it 'lack of players' at the moment. Anything to avoid copping a hiding I guess. From a neutral perspective it should be replayed, if it was my team I'd want it replayed. A game is 90 mins long, not 45 or 20 mins 'sudden death'.
From the state league
wrote on 12-Jun-17 00:02Interestingly a similar situation happened in a u18s fixture between Wollongong and sydney fc in the state leaving except there was a blackout and a loss of power/light. 60 mins were played. The decision was to play the balance of the game at a later date and all prior cards/goals/subs stood!
curious george
wrote on 19-Jun-17 10:09so, is this to be replayed, or just the balance of time?
in the knoww
wrote on 19-Jun-17 12:03curious george Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > so, is this to be replayed, or just the balance of > time? not being replayed at all nil all draw result stands
bbw
wrote on 19-Jun-17 13:05there is no result on comp man, so you might be wrong
ffa
wrote on 19-Jun-17 13:09..so in 2017 there 're no by-laws in the GHFA governing replays? is it still make-up & go? by 2018 there might be 3 artificial turfs..& still no play on rained-out days
Reddy
wrote on 19-Jun-17 17:03Game is being replayed at a date to be determined.
balance
wrote on 19-Jun-17 17:05Reddy, is that the entire game or just the balcnce?
mooyus
wrote on 21-Jun-17 08:01wow looks like the tigers have successfully b*tched there way to a replay how ironic, the biggest time wasters in the comp complaining that they didnt get to play a full game
george
wrote on 18-Jul-17 15:01When is this to be replayed?
GHFA
wrote on 18-Jul-17 15:02george Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When is this to be replayed? Its only going to be played on Sunday the 6th if its going to change positions on the table
tin foil hat
wrote on 18-Jul-17 15:09so eew have convinced GHFA to let them replay the normo game, and gotten out of a points deduction for an extra man on the team sheet. Whats next for the tigers?
hmmmm
wrote on 18-Jul-17 16:03so if EEW have the premiership wrapped up by more than 3 points on Sat 5th, they will forfeit and give NOR the 3 points if they are close to the 4????
No
wrote on 18-Jul-17 22:01hmmmm Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > so if EEW have the premiership wrapped up by more > than 3 points on Sat 5th, they will forfeit and > give NOR the 3 points if they are close to the > 4???? It'll be a draw
cheats
wrote on 19-Jul-17 07:08tin foil hat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > so eew have convinced GHFA to let them replay the > normo game, and gotten out of a points deduction > for an extra man on the team sheet. > > Whats next for the tigers? they also somehow got away with not having points deducted for too many cards during a single match looks like the ghfa wants the tigers to win
Wew lad
wrote on 19-Jul-17 10:02cheats Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > tin foil hat Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > so eew have convinced GHFA to let them replay > the > > normo game, and gotten out of a points > deduction > > for an extra man on the team sheet. > > > > Whats next for the tigers? > > > they also somehow got away with not having points > deducted for too many cards during a single match > > looks like the ghfa wants the tigers to win Here we go
Web cam
wrote on 19-Jul-17 11:06Because you touch yourself at night.
um?
wrote on 19-Jul-17 11:08any reasonable response as to why they keep getting away with breaking the rules?
Response
wrote on 19-Jul-17 12:06um? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > any reasonable response as to why they keep > getting away with breaking the rules? Clubs are issued a warning the first time a team gets 5 yellows in a match. This is for every club. EEW not the only club to get a warning. The GHFA introduced electronic teamsheets at the start of the year, knowing that its a new system and mistakes would be made GHFA stated their leaniency at the start of the year to minor mistakes on a team sheet. The EEW/NMH game isn't 100% going ahead. The game will only be replayed if it has potential to affect premiership results, otherwise the result will be recorded as a draw. Anything else?
Drezadumbdumb
wrote on 19-Jul-17 14:06Drewza Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Only doing a reply if it will help EEW is pretty > weird. > > If the point was the only thing keeping normo from > getting relegated would the replay to give them a > chance to go down? A little slow Drewza? If EEW and PEN were on even points, though EEW had better goal difference, then the match would still need to be replayed. Why? Because if NOR won, this would impact on the EEW goal difference and PEN could potentially take the premiership. It will be replayed if it effects the premiership, for or against EEW. The same if it effected the relegation battle.
Drewza
wrote on 19-Jul-17 14:06Only doing a reply if it will help EEW is pretty weird. If the point was the only thing keeping normo from getting relegated would the replay to give them a chance to go down?
what he meant
wrote on 19-Jul-17 14:09i think he meant the game will only be played if it has any real effect on the final standings of the comp and because normo cant make finals and cant get relegated the only effect the game has is on eews standing at the top
mates rates
wrote on 19-Jul-17 15:00Drewza Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if > it will effect the premiership' > > How happy would people be if they did this for > everything? > > "Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't > matter so we wont reschedule" > "Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your > team can't make finals" > "You're safe from relegation so you can just have > the trainee ref" > > Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the > table i think youre forgetting that eew are the new wph the ghfa have different rules for them they get appointed their mate refs every game too
Drewza
wrote on 19-Jul-17 15:01Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if it will effect the premiership' How happy would people be if they did this for everything? "Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't matter so we wont reschedule" "Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your team can't make finals" "You're safe from relegation so you can just have the trainee ref" Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the table
draw?
wrote on 19-Jul-17 15:04if they finished on equal points couldnt they just take the draw?
Billy
wrote on 19-Jul-17 15:07So, if it needs to be replayed, eew will Be playing for the premiership and Normo playing for nothing.... what a silly decision.
Guy
wrote on 19-Jul-17 16:04Drewza Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if > it will effect the premiership' > > How happy would people be if they did this for > everything? > > "Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't > matter so we wont reschedule" > "Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your > team can't make finals" > "You're safe from relegation so you can just have > the trainee ref" > > Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the > table As has been discussed in previous threads, there IS NO RULE with regards to replaying abandoned games. So in lieu of a rule, a compromise had to be made (even though precedence would direct towards the match finishing as a draw) Im all for playing the game however the notice for it will be extremely short and most likely played on a sunday
JJefrey
wrote on 19-Jul-17 19:03>>As has been discussed in previous threads, there IS NO RULE with regards to replaying abandoned game how sh&t is that.. after 50+ yrs there are no rules
You're an idiot drew
wrote on 19-Jul-17 20:02Drewza Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Surely GHFA don't normally make decisions only 'if > it will effect the premiership' > > How happy would people be if they did this for > everything? > > "Sorry your game got rained out but it doesn't > matter so we wont reschedule" > "Dont worry, you wont get suspended because your > team can't make finals" > "You're safe from relegation so you can just have > the trainee ref" > > Seems like rules should be rules regardless of the > table Every single rained out game gets replayed. No exceptions. Players get suspended if they accrue enough yellows, no exceptions. Players get suspended if they get a red card no exceptions. It's up to refs to put in the yellow cards accrued in each game. Referees are appointed with many factors involved (including referees local proximity to fixtures, referees proximity to fixtures after their own game etc. ). No trainee refs are appointed to middle a game, only to run the flag on the sideline and everyone gets the 14 yr olds who aren't always great. Honestly if you put a minute or two of thought into any of your points before posting you'd save outing yourself as a simple fella
well
wrote on 19-Jul-17 21:07Drewza Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Only doing a reply if it will help EEW is pretty > weird. > > If the point was the only thing keeping normo from > getting relegated would the replay to give them a > chance to go down? It wont help them if NMH win
Rules
wrote on 19-Jul-17 23:058.1.15. Except where specifically varied in these By Laws, no addition is to be made to the duration of either half of the game in the event of time being lost due to injury or any other occurrence that causes play to be suspended. Rather than debating the rules, try reading the By-laws which govern the competition. I also recall last season a midweek fixture between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended with some 20 minutes remaining because the floodlights switched off. The GHFA decreed the result (0-0, at the point the lights went out) stood.
back to school
wrote on 20-Jul-17 07:01ahahahahahahah eew getting schooled also in regards to what you said about refs eew had the same first grade ref both times we played them this year and by the way they were talking to each other it seemed like he had centered for them on more than those 2 occasions and epping is pretty much in the middle of the comp area my team is closer to the edge of the comp border and weve had a different ref every single game except for the games against eew how does that work
Web cam
wrote on 20-Jul-17 09:05Rules Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 8.1.15. Except where specifically varied in these > By Laws, no addition is to be made to the duration > of either half of the game in the event of time > being lost due to injury or any other occurrence > that causes play to be suspended. > > Rather than debating the rules, try reading the > By-laws which govern the competition. > > I also recall last season a midweek fixture > between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended with > some 20 minutes remaining because the floodlights > switched off. The GHFA decreed the result (0-0, > at the point the lights went out) stood. Except there is injury time in first grade this season.. so time is stopped when a injury occurs... what a dumbarse
Rules
wrote on 20-Jul-17 13:01Web cam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rules Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > 8.1.15. Except where specifically varied in > these > > By Laws, no addition is to be made to the > duration > > of either half of the game in the event of time > > being lost due to injury or any other > occurrence > > that causes play to be suspended. > > > > Rather than debating the rules, try reading the > > By-laws which govern the competition. > > > > I also recall last season a midweek fixture > > between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended > with > > some 20 minutes remaining because the > floodlights > > switched off. The GHFA decreed the result > (0-0, > > at the point the lights went out) stood. > > Except there is injury time in first grade this > season.. so time is stopped when a injury > occurs... what a dumbarse The By-laws govern the rules of the comp. if you want to change that it needs to be done before the competition starts. So the 2017 By-laws still has the above rule. Also try reading the Laws of the Game An abandoned match is replayed unless the competition rules or organisers Just a thought or two in the conversation. No need to get all uptight and start throwing insults
BriscNOR
wrote on 20-Jul-17 13:09Rules Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Web cam Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Rules Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > 8.1.15. Except where specifically varied in > > these > > > By Laws, no addition is to be made to the > > duration > > > of either half of the game in the event of > time > > > being lost due to injury or any other > > occurrence > > > that causes play to be suspended. > > > > > > Rather than debating the rules, try reading > the > > > By-laws which govern the competition. > > > > > > I also recall last season a midweek fixture > > > between Redbacks and Macquarie Uni was ended > > with > > > some 20 minutes remaining because the > > floodlights > > > switched off. The GHFA decreed the result > > (0-0, > > > at the point the lights went out) stood. > > > > Except there is injury time in first grade this > > season.. so time is stopped when a injury > > occurs... what a dumbarse > > The By-laws govern the rules of the comp. if you > want to change that it needs to be done before the > competition starts. So the 2017 By-laws still has > the above rule. > > Also try reading the Laws of the Game > > An abandoned match is replayed unless the > competition rules or organisers > > Just a thought or two in the conversation. No need > to get all uptight and start throwing insults Thanks Brisc for the insight
mooyus
wrote on 20-Jul-17 13:09the rules also state Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred (see Law 13 Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred inside the offenders penalty area). but mooyus gets away with it every week
mooyus
wrote on 20-Jul-17 13:09the rules also state Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is restarted with a direct free kick from the position where the offence occurred (see Law 13 Position of free kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred inside the offenders penalty area). but mooyus gets away with it every week
Lol
wrote on 20-Jul-17 16:08mooyus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > the rules also state > > Any player who lunges at an opponent in > challenging for the ball from the > front, from the side or from behind using one or > both legs, with excessive force > and endangering the safety of an opponent is > guilty of serious foul play > > A player who is guilty of serious foul play should > be sent off and play is > restarted with a direct free kick from the > position where the offence occurred > (see Law 13 Position of free kick) or a > penalty kick (if the offence occurred > inside the offenders penalty area). > > but mooyus gets away with it every week That'll do donkey, that'll do.
First Grader
wrote on 20-Jul-17 20:09Back to School, The GHFRA appoints the refs not the Clubs. Having the same ref against the same opposition is just a random fluke. There are at least half a dozen PL refs that have been in our comp for 10+ years with some for over 20 years. The refs living in the Hills area are more likely to stay in that area. Some actually come from the other side of Gladesville bridge so would rarely be asked to drive to Galston. Half of the EEW side have been in PL for 6 to 10 years, like most of their forwards and backs who also find themselves in the refs books more often than the average player. I think most of the players in PL can name the bulk of the EEW side, but would struggle to name anyone from Uni but that's just due to familiarity. Same goes for the PL refs who have been in the comp for 10+ years. In a few years time this may change for the Uni squad.
ummm
wrote on 21-Jul-17 08:08First Grader Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Back to School, > > The GHFRA appoints the refs not the Clubs. Having > the same ref against the same opposition is just a > random fluke. > > There are at least half a dozen PL refs that have > been in our comp for 10+ years with some for over > 20 years. The refs living in the Hills area are > more likely to stay in that area. Some actually > come from the other side of Gladesville bridge so > would rarely be asked to drive to Galston. > > Half of the EEW side have been in PL for 6 to 10 > years, like most of their forwards and backs who > also find themselves in the refs books more often > than the average player. I think most of the > players in PL can name the bulk of the EEW side, > but would struggle to name anyone from Uni but > that's just due to familiarity. Same goes for the > PL refs who have been in the comp for 10+ years. > In a few years time this may change for the Uni > squad. maybe you should go back to school and learn to read noone said clubs appoint refs................. classic eew though all brawn no brain
Whatif
wrote on 24-Jul-17 18:05The Tigers can still come third if they lose their next two games and St Andrews win their last 2 games. They can obviously also come first or second depending on results and may need to play for points to win the minor premiership. I would have thought the Tigers wouldn't have wanted a double header the weekend before the semi's and definitely not the Wednesday after the last game. Someone must know the weather will be fine that last weekend with no chance of a wash out? Can't believe a replay hasn't been scheduled earlier. Has anything been locked in?
If
wrote on 24-Jul-17 19:00If Tigers win there next two games they win the Comp, They will be equal with Peno, then they get a point for a draw against normo, and they win. It is their comp to lose. No need for a replay
Joke
wrote on 24-Jul-17 19:04If they are equal it should be replayed. It works both ways..
must be from peno
wrote on 24-Jul-17 21:00joke you must be from peno, everyone else can beat or draw with normo
Sir stir
wrote on 24-Jul-17 21:03must be from peno Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > joke you must be from peno, > everyone else can beat or draw with normo Normo coming good Drew with Hawks having had their keeper sent off After 15 mins Normo up for challenge Miffed that they were not given point against EEW
cake and eat it
wrote on 25-Jul-17 07:02If Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If Tigers win there next two games they win the > Comp, > They will be equal with Peno, then they get a > point for a draw against normo, and they win. > It is their comp to lose. > No need for a replay you cant just take the point when you want it either the game was abandoned and needs to be replayed or it was a draw and there is no replay you cant have it both ways but i guess the tigers always get their favourite ref so they probably can have it both ways
No Tiger ref
wrote on 27-Jul-17 08:05Seems a few still don't understand the concept, so here it is simply: - If any result in the NMH v EEW missing game will change the standings for the top four, the game will be played - this HAS happened before in juniors, over 45, all age etc. ie holding a game back and only playing it if necessary. There is no conspiracy no matter how much some of you might want there to be one as for the dribble about refs: - GHFRA appoints the refs with a committee, refs don't choose games and teams never have a say - refs like to enjoy football too which means they don't like divers, whingers, guys that fly in with elbows. Tigers are better now than past years but I think you'd still struggle to find a PL ref that would say 'I like Tigers I'm glad they're sending me to Boronia again'
In the know.
wrote on 27-Jul-17 11:04Say what you want but the tigers will come undone,you see they have 4 quality players sitting on to many yellow cards and if those guys get cards against Normo then they'll miss the hawks game.Looks like they will play that game cause they'll need the points.Tom Forrest to take centre stage on Saturday.
we know
wrote on 28-Jul-17 07:05No Tiger ref Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Seems a few still don't understand the concept, so > here it is simply: > > - If any result in the NMH v EEW missing game will > change the standings for the top four, the game > will be played > > - this HAS happened before in juniors, over 45, > all age etc. ie holding a game back and only > playing it if necessary. There is no conspiracy no > matter how much some of you might want there to be > one maybe if you could read we are understand what you are saying but are also stating that if eew and penno end up on the same points, eew shouldnt be able to just take the draw the game should still be replayed get it?
justice
wrote on 31-Jul-17 14:02If results go as expected Penno & EEW will be on equal points after this round. EEW would have won the comp if they had of accepted the 1 point off Normo Now they will have to risk that point against an improved Normo who will want to prove a point (sorry about the pun). Interesting end to season coming up!
oh the irony
wrote on 31-Jul-17 16:03will be sooooooo good if normo beat them i dont think it will happen though
??????
wrote on 31-Jul-17 16:04justice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If results go as expected Penno & EEW will be on > equal points after this round. > > EEW would have won the comp if they had of > accepted the 1 point off Normo > > Now they will have to risk that point against an > improved Normo who will want to prove a point > (sorry about the pun). > > Interesting end to season coming up! EEW were always the team wanting it replayed from when the abandoned match occurred so not sure where you're getting your facts from?
Justice
wrote on 31-Jul-17 20:00?????? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > justice Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > If results go as expected Penno & EEW will be > on > > equal points after this round. > > > > EEW would have won the comp if they had of > > accepted the 1 point off Normo > > > > Now they will have to risk that point against > an > > improved Normo who will want to prove a point > > (sorry about the pun). > > > > Interesting end to season coming up! > > EEW were always the team wanting it replayed from > when the abandoned match occurred so not sure > where you're getting your facts from? English and logic not your strong point mate...?????
Sunday
wrote on 01-Aug-17 13:07According to the draw EEW v NOR at normamhurst oval 1500.
Sunday
wrote on 01-Aug-17 14:00Sorry this Sunday
Normo
wrote on 06-Aug-17 00:03Dear Penno, I am still in the city, and yes I am very very drunk. Love, Normo first grader
Loser
wrote on 06-Aug-17 01:07Normo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dear Penno, > > I am still in the city, and yes I am very very > drunk. > > Love, > > Normo first grader I wish i was as cool as you bro
Bend over
wrote on 06-Aug-17 10:00Normo will always be known as tigers bitches if they throw the game today. Walkaed the ball in the back of the net to give them 3 points and then gave them the premiership 2 weeks later.
Flexible
wrote on 06-Aug-17 10:01Bend over Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Normo will always be known as tigers bitches if > they throw the game today. Walkaed the ball in the > back of the net to give them 3 points and then > gave them the premiership 2 weeks later. If it wins the Tigers a premiership today I'm sure they'll keep bending them over too
EEW first grader
wrote on 06-Aug-17 10:05Good try but no spelling mistakes and very solid punctuation suggests this is a stitch up.
Salt
wrote on 06-Aug-17 11:00All that saltiness I hear Penno, shouldn't of got dicked 5-1 against Normo.
WSFM
wrote on 06-Aug-17 15:05Bryce, can I look forward to hearing the story of this weekend on tomorrow mornings show? 2-0 loss and couldn't even last the 43 minutes
Update 2.0
wrote on 06-Aug-17 15:082-0. EEW keeper drops it into the net of a corner
Update
wrote on 06-Aug-17 15:08Normo up 1-0
Even more salt.
wrote on 06-Aug-17 16:04Should of taken the point when you had the chances Tigers. Cop that.
Hilarity
wrote on 06-Aug-17 16:06EEW take a look at yourselves. All you needed was a point,and against NMH. Which isn't hard to do at all. You don't deserve to win the league after this UNLUGGEEEEEEEEE
phoenix
wrote on 06-Aug-17 16:08Lol
Jose
wrote on 06-Aug-17 17:02The Blob showing his true form!
hahaha
wrote on 06-Aug-17 17:03hahha, just like seeing the tigers and premiers in the same sentance!
Junior Hatfield
wrote on 06-Aug-17 17:05phoenix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lol Scott Hadfield and finals football, something that never goes together in the same sentence.
Ha
wrote on 06-Aug-17 17:06hahaha Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hahha, just like seeing the tigers and premiers in > the same sentance! Your memory must be as good as your grammar
memory lapse
wrote on 06-Aug-17 17:09don't be bitter. You choke as bad as those Hawks...
.
wrote on 06-Aug-17 18:06phoenix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lol Shut up hatfield
Hahahaha
wrote on 06-Aug-17 21:09The whole league would have hoped for this result today. PEN the best team this year and hopefully EEW come away with nothing! I'll back PEN, STA or WPH against those grubs!!!
Shayne Hayne
wrote on 07-Aug-17 09:00EEW counting their chickens early on Satday hahaha might need to go to the video ref to see what went wrong or maybe just not enough dog shots off the ball? Either way, everyones having a good laugh.